Gold Bug Pro (GB Pro)

[Huego]

.............. “I am now using the GB Pro which has a fantastic discrimination"......

(Trinity AU)

Came across the above comment on a US forum.

Does anyone know anything about this detector, the GB Pro ?

[Alluvium]

Hi Huego,

Ask Hermann, he knows all about them.

Hermann come on down.     Howzit producing??

If you got 500 bits using a 5000 and Fine Gold, you should be well on your way using a Gold Bug2.

Cheers  Alluvium.

[Huego]

Hi Huego,

Ask Hermann, he knows all about them.

Hermann come on down.     Howzit producing??

If you got 500 bits using a 5000 and Fine Gold, you should be well on your way using a Gold Bug2.

Cheers  Alluvium.

Thanks Alluvium,

I look forward to Hermann sharing his gold (bug) experiences with finer gold 'timing' with this low-cost detector!!

(I was about to post the following when I noticed you posting.)

Cheers Huego
 

[Huego]

TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE???

"Modulated tone" makes discrimination from iron trash easy for this low cost VLF.  If you can stand this poor example, listen to this .......

             

Fisher Gold Bug Pro	Small | Large

Some other comments include ……

•   “Sounds too good to be true!”

•   Maybe for “really small bits & shallow specimen gold the Minelabs miss”  in ground that is not too hot.

•   “MPS does this for ML” (JP) but you pay a big premium for it JP and loose some targets with the hot ground.

•   The unit is “getting rave reviews from relic hunters for its ability to pull non-ferrous items out of thick iron trash.”

Dealers Claims@!      More Powerful!    More Sensitivity!   More Depth!   Affordable!

The New Gold Bug Pro is unique among gold prospecting metal detectors for its combination of high sensitivity to small gold nuggets and its versatile function as an all-purpose treasure detector.

Suited to finding the smallest gold nuggets in highly mineralized soils ….

Features :

V-Break, Industry's First Variable Breakpoint tone discrimination system

Computerized Ground Grab

Real-Time computerized ground balancing

V.C.O. Audio in All Metal & Discrimination Mode

Independent control over Threshold & Gain

Continuous Ground Condition Readouts

Ground Phase value indicates type of mineralization

Static Pinpoint with depth indicator

Dual Headphone Jacks, 19kHz Operating Frequency

Ultra Simple User Interface, Ultra-Lightweight (2.5 lbs)


True Hermann???   

[Huego]

Hi Doug & members (with apology to Alluvium),

Some of you may have suspected something fishy      (…… “WTF is he up to now?” (Mick)  )

Now before I get accused of being a “spin merchant” for Fisher (as it has suggested I was for the QED), I wanted to use this post as an example for members to show just how those with vested commercial interests can PROMOTE a commercial product, or company or business on free forums!!

Pose a question, or better wait for others to pose a question, on your product or service.
Then BINGO you have a free invite & entry for an advertorial.  

Hermann,  could polish it off with a pic of a handful of nuggets you found with your Gold Bug?  

Now, If I were serious, I would have done it slowly, more subtly as a true & experienced 'spinner' would offering help & commentary to my fellow prospectors. It about creating an image!

Such ADVERTORIALS & HELP cost nothing to reach & influence the target market!!    

Huego
(spin doctor for XYZ, following the good example set by JP & others on the “free for comment” forums)

 

PS: (Now for my reward) Fisher, you can kindly send me my "FREE for comment" Gold Bug to my address which I will forward to you!    

                               DO YOU GET IT ??   Now get out there & multiply & make money like JP does. (Inspired by good cricket!  )

PS:  Fish, when I modified the title my poor spelling originally read  "SINNER REVEALED!"  Crikey the spelling paddock has done no good!    

[turtleman]

Huego

Try this test. Put your ring on the floor, cut the bottom off a foam cup about 2 inches.
Place the cup over then ring and put the nail on top of the cup. see what TDI reading you get.

Thanks
Tom

[Huego]

Huego

Try this test. Put your ring on the floor, cut the bottom off a foam cup about 2 inches.
Place the cup over then ring and put the nail on top of the cup. see what TDI reading you get.

Thanks
Tom

Hi Tom,

I had to laugh when I read your post, though I suspect you meant it seriously.

Did you mean my gold wedding ring (which I no longer have) or .........  to put my a*se on the floor? 
I can borrow one though and I can also find a syrofoam cup somewhere.

But my friend I don't have a TDI (haven't promoted them enough I was told! ).
Can't do that test with a Gold Bug either, as my "free (for comment)" Bug 2 is yet to arrive.   

Hope you don't mind the frivolity. Its the good Ozzie cricket what does it!

Tom, feel free to post your own results or comments though!

Huego

[The Modern Day Prospector]

http://golddetecting.4umer.net/t7763p30-vlf-vs-pi-detectors#7204

Operator has a lot of success with the gold bug in this area.

[Mechanic]

 or .........  to put my a*se on the floor? 
I can borrow one though .....
Huego

  you can't borrow mine!!! Sorry couldn't resist! 

I haven't been following that thread, read the first few posts and got bored.

However I have managed to pick up a garret ads deepseeker to borrow for a while from my neighbor. Haven't fired it up yet but it will be interesting to see what it can pick up. I am thinking about using it down at the beach, detecting with my pi and the 30X7 patchfinder and then when I find a target using the vlf to identify it quickly....

Cheers Mick

[Huego]

http://golddetecting.4umer.net/t7763p30-vlf-vs-pi-detectors#7204

Operator has a lot of success with the gold bug in this area.

Indeed, he appears to have Brian but is walking on thin ice there as there are MInes Laid everywhere.
But I can see he knows what he talks about & substantiates all his claims very well and is polite etc . That demands respect from the Mind-laddies

But Brian and members, do you realise WHO the MIne-Lads there are .... waving the ML flag??????

Ararat:  (former ML dealer) now Admin / managment
JP:   a ML product tester, gold meister, ML mouth, forum-activated spin doctor & prospectors "adviser"
Qld Sandy: a current ML dealer (endorsed by JP)

They are obligated by their contracts to support ML!   They are the obvious ones .......

Still waiting on Hermann's report, maybe he is away.  Mick do you have a gold ring?  
Mick its about a Gold Bug mate not Garret Deepseeker.

Huego  

[WM6]

The New Gold Bug Pro is unique among gold prospecting metal detectors for its combination of high sensitivity to small gold nuggets and its versatile function as an all-purpose treasure detector.

Suited to finding the smallest gold nuggets in highly mineralized soils ….

Features :

V-Break, Industry's First Variable Breakpoint tone discrimination system

Computerized Ground Grab

Real-Time computerized ground balancing

V.C.O. Audio in All Metal & Discrimination Mode

Independent control over Threshold & Gain

Continuous Ground Condition Readouts

Ground Phase value indicates type of mineralization

Static Pinpoint with depth indicator

Dual Headphone Jacks, 19kHz Operating Frequency

Ultra Simple User Interface, Ultra-Lightweight (2.5 lbs)

Probably correct except claim about high mineralized soil.

This is still only VLF. This from its manual:

[Huego]

Thanks WM6,

Interesting post with good technical details  

Of course holding a coil further from the hot ground to reduce noise means it is also further from any (gold) targets, reducing their response!  

 

[The Modern Day Prospector]

http://golddetecting.4umer.net/t7763p30-vlf-vs-pi-detectors#72116

JP has come out with a very good post, which makes a lot of sense for us prospectors. Like he says your PI machine will be your number 1 machine for gold hunting, but it is very handy to have a VLF machine like a gold bug in your gear. I would also like to say it is very refreshing to see a ML tester like JP put up pictures of himself using a different brand other than ML.


 

If you read the post straight after JPs another poster also says the same thing, and this poster is right in what he says a lot of guys would like to talk other machines on the free forum but a lot of time if you mention something else they come out of the wood work to attack you.

[sawmill]

 MDP

 JP only stated the facts ,that are know by any serious prospector.
He knows that to say otherwise ,would be completely false information.

 Any serious prospector/nugget hunter always has both PI and VLF
machines,because neither one can do everything.

 WM6 
 
 The Gold Bug Pro can handle some pretty hot ground. It mostly
depends on who is using it,and their experience. The Gold Bug II
is actually more preferred by experienced operators,because of
its higher operating frequency. The Gold Bug II finds gold so small
that you can barely see it. I don't own one,but I have seen them
work. My old prospecting partner had one,and he knew how to
use it. They are not a very deep machine,but they will hit on some
of the smallest gold ,and do it well.

 The Gold Bug Pro is more of a turn on and go machine,both are
very popular machines with proven track records.

 Don't fall for the VLF can't handle hot ground crap. My GM3 Whites
VLF will run in ground and produce gold,that will give a 4500 fits.

 Also Ray Mills is a well known prospector in the US. He has done
well with the Gold Bugs,and is a reliable source of information.

[Huego]

Brian,

JP is every prospector’s best friend as they are customers (of his or ML, who he works for). He panders to be popular with customers.  
As long posters don’t undermine this business or the good (s)will, he works hard to create for ML products among prospectors, he will remain passive.

While he works for ML, he is obligated to endorse, promote & protect ML, by culture & contract.  

   “Don’t bite the hand that feeds you” (is what JP's grandmother would have told him!)

However, when put in a spot that's indefensible or outside his comfort zone eg about ML ethics on AZO & another US forum, he lost it. Badly!  

Anyway this post is about the GB pro or GB-2, not about how good ML Pi’s are.  That comparison post was made elsewhere, see ...

        (http://australianelectronicgoldprospectingforum.com/general-chat-and-discussion-forum/testing-reporting-detector-performance/)  

Also, my point here was primarily to show by example ........

HOW the likes of JP operates on ML forums to promote himself, employer & employers products (see post above re ADVERTORIALS & SPINNER REVEALED)

Too much flag-waving over non-ML products on some forums is like stirring up an ants nest!

Huego  

[Doug]

  Don't fall for the VLF can't handle hot ground crap. My GM3 Whites
VLF will run in ground and produce gold,that will give a 4500 fits.

I don' t expect that ML would want this to become well known!!! You should make a video and post it on u tube!It would really stir the pro ML crowd into action!
doug

[sawmill]

 Doug

 I am not interested in stirring up,or educating the ML guys.
Actually, I don't care what they believe ,or what machine they
buy.
 A U Tube video is worthless for proving anything. They are good
for fooling the unwary,or peddling a load of BS.

 I am just glad that I had the good sense to listen and learn just
what a VLF can do. A VLF was finding gold long before the PI came
along,and they are still finding gold. Both machines have their limits,
and quirks,but together they make a good combination.

 A VLF is tougher to learn,but once you get on to it,they can do a
lot of things,that a PI can't. The GM series Whites and Gold Bug
were made for prospecting,and they will handle the ground if you
know how.

 Most hobby hunters,don't have the patience to learn how to use
them right. Also the peer pressure,and hype from PI owners causes
most to give up before they find out just what a VLF can do.

[hermann]

Hi everyone,  I can't talk about the Goldbug Pro, but I experienced today a Goldbug 2 near Castlemaine.  A friend of mine (Polak) took me this morning to a patch where he found 20 tiny bits of gold yesterday.  I wanted to find the bits that he missed, I set the switch to low mineralisation, and the sensi.switch to 6.5, and audio boost, it was impossible to detect because of little pieces of ironstone, then I was setting the switch to normal mineralisation, still the machine drove me mad.   I had to set the switch to high mineralisation, in these settings I still got a lot of false signals from ironstone pieces.  Finally I got a signal and this was a 22 bullet near the surface, and actually it was very quiet.  On the 5000 the bullet would have screamed at me.  So, with the switch set in high mineralisation I was loosing a lot of sensativity.  After 2 hours hearing hundreds of horrible little noises and no gold I switched the machine off, if there had been a creek with deep water in it the machine would have landed in it, but I did'nt throw it away yet, instead I moved a few klm. away where I found last year lots of tiny little nuggets with the 5000 in fine gold, again the Goldbug 2 drove me mad with all these horrible little noises, this was my first outing today with the Goldbug 2.  Over the years I found thousands of little & biggish nuggets, and maybe I got a little spoiled with the quiet 4500 or 5000.  I wish somebody could teach me how to run the Goldbug properly, I tried very hard and I believe on clay-pipe heaps & very low mineralisation I would master this toy.   REgards,  Hermann.

[WM6]

 

 Don't fall for the VLF can't handle hot ground crap. My GM3 Whites
VLF will run in ground and produce gold,that will give a 4500 fits.

Hi sawmill

"machine will not be usable in that condition" is not my claim, this is Fisher's (producer of Gold Bug Pro) claim.

I can easily agree with you regarding its hot ground capabilities, cause I haven't my own experiences with  Gold Bug Pro.

[sawmill]

 WM6

 Yes I know that it is a factory statement. At least they are
honest enough to say the Gold Bug has its limits. But on the
other hand it also says that the condition can be changed by
raising the coil a little.

 The same soil condition also gives a ML fits too.


 Hermann
 
 Did you read the owners manual ,before attempting to use
the Gold Bug? Also in your post you didn't say how you ground
balanced the machine.