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A small problem of credibility!
31,000 American scientists have signed onto the Global Warming Petition Project
“The 30,000 scientists and science graduates listed on the OISM petition represent a tiny fraction (0.3%) of all science graduates. More importantly, the OISM list only contains 39 scientists who specialist in climate science.”
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The vast majority of those who have signed the Oregon Petition have no background in climate science .
An even smaller proportion are actually practicing climate scientists.
Anyone with a Bsc can sign. Imagine the hundreds of thousands that graduate with these every year. Consider the millions who already have them. This petition has been open for any one of these to sign. All they have to do is read the petition online and mail in their signature. It’s no secret. In fact, it’s been repeatedly widely publicized.

The National Academy of Sciences released the following statement regarding the OISM Petition:
"The petition project was a deliberate attempt to mislead scientists and to rally them in an attempt to undermine support for the Kyoto Protocol. The petition was not based on a review of the science of global climate change, nor were its signers experts in the field of climate science."

Ie the petition is not worth the paper its written on!

Global Warming Denial Machine

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Ufox you have got to do better! You are just another-global-warming-denier who slavishly follows the global warming denial machine rather than getting off your bum and reading and researching the issues from climate scientists in the best peer reviewed journals!
Climate myths: The cooling after 1940 shows CO2 does not cause warming
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Mann's hockey stick confirmed by multiple proxys!
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Further update on sea level rises
A 20th century acceleration in global sea-level rise
John A. Church
CSIRO Marine and Atmospheric Research, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems Cooperative Research Centre, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
Neil J. White
CSIRO Marine and Atmospheric Research, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems Cooperative Research Centre, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
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Global sea level linked to global temperature
Martin Vermeera,1 and Stefan Rahmstorfb
Department of Surveying, Helsinki University of Technology, P.O. Box 1200, FI-02150, Espoo, Finland; and bPotsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research,
Telegrafenberg A62, 14473 Potsdam, Germany
Edited by William C. Clark, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA, and approved October 26, 2009 (received for review July 15, 2009)
We propose a simple relationship linking global sea-level variations on time scales of decades to centuries to global mean temperature. This relationship is tested on synthetic data from a global climate model for the past millennium and the next century. When applied to observed data of sea level and temperature for 1880–2000, and taking into account known anthropogenic hydrologic contributions to sea level, the correlation is >0.99, explaining 98% of the variance. For future global temperature scenarios of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s Fourth Assessment Report, the relationship projects a sea-level rise ranging from 75 to 190 cm for the period 1990–2010
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Projections of future sea level becoming more dire
Jonathan T. Overpecka,b,c,1 and Jeremy L. Weissb
Institute of the Environment, University of Arizona, 845 North Park Avenue, Suite 532, Tucson, AZ 85719; bDepartment of
Geosciences, University of Arizona, 1040 East 4th Street, Tucson, AZ 85721; and cDepartment of Atmospheric Sciences,
University of Arizona, 1118 East 4th Street, Tucson, AZ 85721
PNAS  December 22, 2009  vol. 106  no. 51  21461–21462
When i get time i will upload some data to show the mean global sea level rises over the period they have been measured.As usual the peer reviewed climate science is against you!!!

Antarctic Climate & Ecosystems Cooperative Research Centre
Position analysis:climate change,sea-level rise and extreme events:impacts and adaptation issues

Sea-Level Rise from the Late 19th to the Early 21st Century

John A. Church • Neil J. White
Received: 2 November 2010 / Accepted: 7 March 2011 / Published online: 30 March 2011
 The Author(s) 2011. This article is published with open access at
Surv Geophys (2011) 32:585–602 DOI 10.1007/s10712-011-9119-1

We estimate the rise in global average sea level from satellite altimeter data for 1993–2009 and from coastal and island sea-level measurements from 1880 to 2009. For
1993–2009 and after correcting for glacial isostatic adjustment, the estimated rate of rise is 3.2 ± 0.4 mm year-1 from the satellite data and 2.8 ± 0.8 mm year-1 from the in situ data.The global average sea-level rise from 1880 to 2009 is about 210 mm. The linear trend from 1900 to 2009 is 1.7 ± 0.2 mm year-1 and since 1961 is 1.9 ± 0.4 mm year-1. There is considerable variability in the rate of rise during the twentieth century but there has been a statistically significant acceleration since 1880 and 1900 of 0.009 ± 0.003 mm year-2 and 0.009 ± 0.004 mm year-2, respectively. Since the start of the altimeter record in 1993,global average sea level rose at a rate near the upper end of the sea level projections of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s Third and Fourth Assessment Reports. However, the reconstruction indicates there was little net change in sea level from 1990 to 1993, most likely as a result of the volcanic eruption of Mount Pinatubo in 1991.

Paleoclimatic Evidence for Future Ice-Sheet Instability and Rapid Sea-Level Rise

Science 24 March 2006:
Vol. 311 no. 5768 pp. 1747-1750
DOI: 10.1126/science.1115159  

Ice sheet mass balance and sea level

I. Allisona1 c1, R.B. Alleya2, H.A. Frickera3, R.H. Thomasa4 and R.C. Warnera1
a1 Australian Antarctic Division and Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems Cooperative Research Centre, Hobart, TAS 7050, Australia
a2 Department of Geosciences and Earth and Environmental Systems Institute, Pennsylvania State University, University Park, PA 16802, USA
a3 Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics, Scripps Institution of Oceanography, University of California, San Diego, La Jolla, CA 92093, USA
a4 EG&G Technical Services Inc., Chincoteague, VA 23336, USA
Antarctic Science (2009), 21:413-426 Cambridge University Press
Copyright © Antarctic Science Ltd 2009
The US insurance industry appears to accept the potential catastrophic impacts of manmade global climate change!
But environmental attorney Catriona MacGregor told she does not buy the idea that environmental catastrophes aren’t in the offing due to global climate change. 
“The insurance industry, an industry that has significant expertise in measuring and calculating risk, was one of the first to link manmade emissions with mounting warming and catastrophes,” she said. 
“This industry is not considered a pro-environment industry -- it is purely in the business of risk management and calculation. Nationally and internationally, this industry is unanimously adopting the view that global warming is manmade."

Ufox you are a climate skeptic dope! Do your homework and then you will not look like such a fool!!!!!
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