northwest 30" CC for Minelab GPX, GP, SD and similar.
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Thursday August 22 2019 05:59:08 AEST AM
Home Help Login Register
News: Welcome to the Australianelectronicgoldprospectingforum founded in July 2010, an add free totally independent forum with over 70 boards and paid for and managed by the Admin.Topics: 9,245  Total forum Posts:46,357 Members:833. Total page views:12,263,130  Admin and  forum and domain name owner :marjen at optusnet.com.au. Guests can only see a limited number of boards at present and cannot see any hot links. Guests cannot post and never will be permitted too!Registration of new members must be approved by admin.
 All  original Photos and posts and  original materials displayed on this site are COPYRIGHTED and remain the property of the poster and the  Austalian electronicgoldprospectingforum.com. All messages on this forum express the personal views of the author and should not be interpreted as necessarily being in accord with those of the forum owner and neither the owner of this forum and its domain name nor SMF or the forum software developers or the forum host shall be held responsible for the content of any message. Admin reserves the right to remove any offensive or objectionable posts. No defamatory material or politics/religion or issues of race will be permitted.
QED news
QED on facebook
link-https://www.facebook.com/groups/245308699667153/403446933853328/?comment_id=403472030517485&reply_comment_id=403476793850342&notif_id=1562580344994993&notif_t=group_comment
New GB timing algorithm being tested in the QED.
Climate news
Contribution to global warming by Australia. Australia has one of the highest per capita emissions of carbon dioxide in the world, with 0.3% of the world's population it produces 1.4% and rising(not the .08% the  finders forum dope "Inhere" claims!) of the world's greenhouse gases. Australia also has the highest per capita emissions in the OECD, with 26 tonnes of greenhouse gasses being emitted per person every year.
Australia's C02 emissions rise for the 4th year in a row.

australian electronic gold prospecting forum.com  |  Detector Technology and Electronics and new detectors  |  Detector Coils (Moderator: Goldman)  |  Topic: 30" CC for Minelab GPX, GP, SD and similar. 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. « previous next »
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 [7] 8 Go Down Print
Author Topic: 30" CC for Minelab GPX, GP, SD and similar.  (Read 4475 times)
Dontbstme
regular members
Junior Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 228


« Reply #120 on: Tuesday July 23 2019 06:13:18 AEST AM »

  
  

There are few more videos to come out in the next few days. Detailed tests on both 30"CC and 21"CC.


Watched your latest video: 30"CC for Minelab GPX, depth test in highly mineralised ground.
And good that you included in this particular test an Australian 50c coin which now enables the use of the same 50c coin here to be used with whatever coil and GPX or other detector we chose for a comparison to ascertain that your 30" CC has an advantage depth wise.
Also of interest will be that you perform the same tests using the 21"CC coil and same GPX settings at this mineralised test spot over the same buried targets including the 50c coin.
Look at the 21"CC thread.
Logged
mylab
invited members
Newbie
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 194


« Reply #121 on: Thursday August 1 2019 00:16:47 AEST AM »

  

The current 30" and 21"CC coils for GPX are designed to work in two basic modes of operation controlled from a switch box placed behind the coil plug. The modes are Maximum Depth and Hot Ground.

In Maximum Depth Mode the Nexus CC coils are fully compatible with the QED and will work on the QED detectors with full efficiency, despite their concentric design..


In regards to your Maximum Depth Mode does the CC coil’s 30” outer coil operate like a normal mono coil by transmitting and receiving and the inner approx. 11” coil is disengaged and the same for the 21" coil as well?
Logged
Dontbstme
regular members
Junior Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 228


« Reply #122 on: Thursday August 1 2019 01:15:24 AEST AM »

  
  

The current 30" and 21"CC coils for GPX are designed to work in two basic modes of operation controlled from a switch box placed behind the coil plug. The modes are Maximum Depth and Hot Ground.

In Maximum Depth Mode the Nexus CC coils are fully compatible with the QED and will work on the QED detectors with full efficiency, despite their concentric design..


In regards to your Maximum Depth Mode does the CC coil’s 30” outer coil operate like a normal mono coil by transmitting and receiving and the inner approx. 11” coil is disengaged and the same for the 21" coil as well?

Not exactly. If you disengage the RX it will become source of interference (free inductor) as signals inducted by the TX will have nowhere to go. It is a bit more complicated.

Logged
Dontbstme
regular members
Junior Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 228


« Reply #123 on: Wednesday August 7 2019 05:54:20 AEST AM »

Some great news. From 07.08.2019 the prices for the 30"CC and 41"CC for GPX will be lower than 50% or mode as I have made  a new deal with some more sensible Carbon parts supplier.
The price for the 30'CC will be 1195 Euros (just bellow 2000 Australian) and the price for the 41"CC will be 1395 Euros ( about 2300 Australian or so). Both prices include shipping via priority registered air mail. For courier delivery there will be extra charge.

I will also introduce very soon 12"CC, 14'CC and 16'CC made from ABS plastic and with a price range matching the NF and Coiltek for similar sizes or less than that.
Logged
bugwhiskers
invited members
Supreme Hero Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 2165



« Reply #124 on: Wednesday August 7 2019 09:40:42 AEST AM »

  

Logged

All posts are my opinion and are stated without prejudice and in the public and consumers interest.
mylab
invited members
Newbie
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 194


« Reply #125 on: Thursday August 8 2019 00:37:41 AEST AM »

  

Not exactly. If you disengage the RX it will become source of interference (free inductor) as signals inducted by the TX will have nowhere to go. It is a bit more complicated.


Thanks for your reply as I had thought with the cable switch set in the MD mode position it operated as a normal mono coil and therefore would now operate on the QED.

Your new price range for the extra large CC coils along with your new medium sized range of CC coils I would think make the Australian coil manufactures sit up and take notice as they may have missed an opportunity that an overseas manufacturer such as yourself has seen. As has been the case with the X-coil manufacturer.

However I have yet to view a extended video of your CC coil actually operating over a large area of high mineralised ground on an Australian goldfield using the Normal timing that it is supposed to handle for such conditions. To prove the existence of the mineralisation a mono coil, of similar size or close to in size to your CC coil, would need to shown in operation using Normal timing and it being unable to cope with that particular ground.
Logged
Dontbstme
regular members
Junior Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 228


« Reply #126 on: Thursday August 8 2019 04:12:22 AEST AM »

  
  


I take it when I suggested to you (in spirit of cooperation) to check if anyone in Australia would undertake to manufacture cheap Carbon Fibre coil parts that was a failure.
So now you will personally demonstrate how it can be done, from the material you are proposing, right?
Logged
Dontbstme
regular members
Junior Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 228


« Reply #127 on: Thursday August 8 2019 04:18:06 AEST AM »

  
  

Not exactly. If you disengage the RX it will become source of interference (free inductor) as signals inducted by the TX will have nowhere to go. It is a bit more complicated.


Thanks for your reply as I had thought with the cable switch set in the MD mode position it operated as a normal mono coil and therefore would now operate on the QED.

Your new price range for the extra large CC coils along with your new medium sized range of CC coils I would think make the Australian coil manufactures sit up and take notice as they may have missed an opportunity that an overseas manufacturer such as yourself has seen. As has been the case with the X-coil manufacturer.

However I have yet to view a extended video of your CC coil actually operating over a large area of high mineralised ground on an Australian goldfield using the Normal timing that it is supposed to handle for such conditions. To prove the existence of the mineralisation a mono coil, of similar size or close to in size to your CC coil, would need to shown in operation using Normal timing and it being unable to cope with that particular ground.
A customer from Queensland have began making his own video tests with the 30"CC. I suggest you ask him to do what you expect to see on a video. Since I'm on the other side of the planet would be difficult for me to satisfy your request.

  
Logged
bugwhiskers
invited members
Supreme Hero Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 2165



« Reply #128 on: Thursday August 8 2019 06:57:12 AEST AM »

  
  
  


I take it when I suggested to you (in spirit of cooperation) to check if anyone in Australia would undertake to manufacture cheap Carbon Fibre coil parts that was a failure.
So now you will personally demonstrate how it can be done, from the material you are proposing, right?


Wrong.
I wanted the readers to see that Carbon Fibre is not that expensive and therefore there must be another reason for the very significant price drop. Competition from Detech perhaps?
With only about $40 of materials (wire/plastic) in each coil you can well afford to provide a very long warranty. Is this the case?
Logged

All posts are my opinion and are stated without prejudice and in the public and consumers interest.
Dontbstme
regular members
Junior Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 228


« Reply #129 on: Thursday August 8 2019 15:32:57 AEST PM »

  
  
  
  


I take it when I suggested to you (in spirit of cooperation) to check if anyone in Australia would undertake to manufacture cheap Carbon Fibre coil parts that was a failure.
So now you will personally demonstrate how it can be done, from the material you are proposing, right?


Wrong.
I wanted the readers to see that Carbon Fibre is not that expensive and therefore there must be another reason for the very significant price drop. Competition from Detech perhaps?
With only about $40 of materials (wire/plastic) in each coil you can well afford to provide a very long warranty. Is this the case?

I am a manufacturer of search coils and metal detectors, not supplier of raw materials.
If I sell raw Carbon to folks the price will be like from anyone else, BUT.
The price of raw material is only a small part of the retail price of a product. There are many costs involved and the biggest one is the labour needed to produce a Carbon coil. It is much more extensive that you can begin to imagine.

If you want to talk about cost explain how your QED detector been made out of plastic (not even Carbon or anything special) is 1800 Australian. You said plastic is less than 20 dollars per kilo. Does your detector weights 900 kilos? Or how much do you charge for your time? I am in the business of detector manufacturing and know very well how cheap they are made with processors like the QED and unlike Nexus which is completely analogue and very complex to manufacture.

You mention Detech. Well their 32"coil is 95% plastic and I know for a fact that is made with the same Litz that they use in their small coils. How can you justify a plastic coil to sell for 1824 Australian? And it is not even properly demonstrated in any video. Only few misleading manipulative clips and Reg's hearsay comments amongst which I found the coil is touch sensitive.

I also own a company that pays taxes. May be you should think about this before talking loud from your garage as it is far too easy to make a call to your tax office and get things straight.

I am always willing to cooperate with other companies and/or individuals, but your xenophobic attitude is getting out of hand. Trowing dirt on other products and people will not make you shine over them. It will only expose who you really are.
Logged
Reg Wilson
invited members
Newbie
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 102


« Reply #130 on: Thursday August 8 2019 16:14:06 AEST PM »

Threats of lagging to the tax department!!!! Boy you sure know how to make friends and influence people. As far as I'm concerned you haven't a clue when it comes to diplomacy or promoting your product in this country.
When you thought you had the concentric coil market to yourself your prices were extreme, then as soon as Detech brought out a concentric coil your prices suddenly dropped. You stoop to rubbishing Detech and anyone else who questions you or your product. Your bullying arrogant attitude sure won't see too many people buying your coils.
You talk about xenophobia, well maybe we just don't like smart arses like you with your air of superiority, treating us like fools. Go and take some lessons in humility.
Logged
Dontbstme
regular members
Junior Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 228


« Reply #131 on: Thursday August 8 2019 16:40:57 AEST PM »

  
Threats of lagging to the tax department!!!! Boy you sure know how to make friends and influence people. As far as I'm concerned you haven't a clue when it comes to diplomacy or promoting your product in this country.
When you thought you had the concentric coil market to yourself your prices were extreme, then as soon as Detech brought out a concentric coil your prices suddenly dropped. You stoop to rubbishing Detech and anyone else who questions you or your product. Your bullying arrogant attitude sure won't see too many people buying your coils.
You talk about xenophobia, well maybe we just don't like smart arses like you with your air of superiority, treating us like fools. Go and take some lessons in humility.

Making friends??? I have extended hand to Howard many times and to you too, but you both spitted on it and keep doing so.
Howard also lied to me as he lied to other people, making false promises then turning away.

Instead of trying so desperately to rubbish me and other folks why just not demonstrate properly and vividly what your great QED detector is capable of? Why not make some real test of that big Detech coil that you recommend so much?
Come on. One proper video speaks louder than thousand forum posts.







Logged
Reg Wilson
invited members
Newbie
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 102


« Reply #132 on: Thursday August 8 2019 17:04:54 AEST PM »

You really take the cake! Do you actually believe you are going to impress anyone by coming on this forum and rubbishing Howard, the QED, and me? Why don't you just take your overpriced coil and sod off to Finders or some other forum. Go piss and moan to someone who cares (whoever that may be)
Logged
phrunt
regular members
Newbie
***
Online Online

Posts: 31


« Reply #133 on: Thursday August 8 2019 19:57:27 AEST PM »

door --->
Logged
WM6
invited members
Senior Hero Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1998



« Reply #134 on: Thursday August 8 2019 20:37:53 AEST PM »

Dontbstme is "quick on the gun" character, (has a short wick).

This is why he take name "don't bust me"! Nice warning. What to do?

We all are different. Thanks god, this way world is less boring.

He is only trying to survive globalization his way. As most of us.

We only need to take for granted, that we all are (more or less) different.
Logged

Global capital is ruining your life?
You have right to self-defence!
jrbeatty
invited members
Newbie
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 114



« Reply #135 on: Thursday August 8 2019 20:57:08 AEST PM »

At least there's now an alternative coming from someone pleasant to deal with:



Putting my order in - - -
Logged
WM6
invited members
Senior Hero Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1998



« Reply #136 on: Thursday August 8 2019 23:29:39 AEST PM »

  

Putting my order in - - -


Nice looking coil.

Where did you find it?

On eBay only 32" model is found.
Logged

Global capital is ruining your life?
You have right to self-defence!
Eski
QED users
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 60

Sheriff of nowhere


« Reply #137 on: Friday August 9 2019 16:55:30 AEST PM »

Dontbstme, with all due respect, it was you not Howard that quoted the price of carbon when trying to justify the price of your coil. you gave no other reason (aside maybe freight).

so you have no right to go on some rant about finding someone local to make your coils - Howard was simply responding to your statement about the price of carbon.

dont assume people are stupid or they will respond in a negative way. you are clearly doing this and you don't seem to like it when people respond in a negative way.  You are seriously taking the pi$$ if you think anyone will believe you found such a massive price reduction. your margin was excessive so you cut it. maybe you found some efficiencies but most of it is a margin cut.

in all seriousness, you are going about selling coils in totally the wrong way. 

to all , i'm starting a new thread for the detech concentrics.  Every keystroke seems wasted on dontbstme.
Logged
mylab
invited members
Newbie
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 194


« Reply #138 on: Wednesday August 14 2019 00:30:17 AEST AM »

  

Why not make some real test of that big Detech coil that you recommend so much?
One proper video speaks louder than thousand forum posts.


Pretty much rings true when Dontbstme has said he is the only manufacturer that bothers to actually test, measure and declare what his products are capable of on videos, especially when you watch his video tests results which include measurements both in air and in the ground.
Logged
Goldman
global moderator
Junior Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 229



« Reply #139 on: Wednesday August 14 2019 08:33:17 AEST AM »

  
  

Why not make some real test of that big Detech coil that you recommend so much?
One proper video speaks louder than thousand forum posts.


Pretty much rings true when Dontbstme has said he is the only manufacturer that bothers to actually test, measure and declare what his products are capable of on videos, especially when you watch his video tests results which include measurements both in air and in the ground.

Not entirely true! Detech Australia has released YouTube videos of testing performed at the Maryborough test patch, which I have to say is recognised as ‘the standard’ when testing either detectors and/or coils.

I know for a fact that the 3rd target (for whatever reason) is hard to get, but the detech CC coil picked it and all of the targets easily.
  
  

Detech has listed other videos using the coil, so check them out.
Cheers Goldman
Logged
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 [7] 8 Go Up Print 
australian electronic gold prospecting forum.com  |  Detector Technology and Electronics and new detectors  |  Detector Coils (Moderator: Goldman)  |  Topic: 30" CC for Minelab GPX, GP, SD and similar. « previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines
Simple Audio Video Embedder

BisdakworldClassic design by JV PACO-IN
Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!