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« on: February 13, 2011, 06:41:08 PM »

Infringement proceedings or opposition to an innovation patent cannot be commenced until the innovation patent has been certified!
A certified innovation  patent cannot be deemed an infringement of a granted patent unless so proved  beyond all reasonable doubt in the appropriate legal jurisdiction!
Mere notification  by a patentee or their legal representative  informing an innovation patent applicant or certified innovation patent holder that they are infringing a patent does NOT in my opinion constitute a patent infringement!
I also do not believe that an innovation patent can be deemed to be an infringement of a patent application!
A patent application is not the same as a patent!
A patent application is NOT the same as a patent. Claims in a published patent application have not been examined by a national patent office and may not be representative of a scope that will ultimately be granted!A patent can only be infringed if it is valid and the validity or otherwise of a patent application has not been  established! Indeed the patent application may be refused or  the claims on which the patent applicant claims infringement may be totally rejected by the patent examiners!
My reading of the act  tells me that any patent applicant that claims patent infringement of their patent application by a certified innovation patent holder on the basis of their patent applications may be  committing an offense under the act and  the innovation patent holder may go to the courts to claim relief or to have the court determine that  the claims of patent infringement are unjustified.
To download the act go here:
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/pa1990109.txt/cgi-bin/download.cgi/download/au/legis/cth/consol_act/pa1990109.rtf
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2011, 07:16:07 PM »

Thanks Doug. I will study the act and give my opinion later. First impressions of what you wrote follow

What you are saying is what I understand also ie

A innovation patent holder cannot be infringing on another parties patent application(s).
(Patent Applications have little value, except establishing PRIORITY DATE, and then ONLY if that patent is examined and the claims (that are applied for) are granted (certified)!

A certified holders of a innovation patent is someone who (I believe) has been granted a Innovation patent certificate (someone like Bugs? Can you confirm?). Seems obvious doesn't it? This happens after it is applied for, paid for, examined & 'approved' by the the patents office.

How objections challenges are made, for how long and how are they are best handled is what I am most unclear about.
Also, how long do objectors have to object?

How do courts handle trivial / vexatious objections to granted Innovation Patents?

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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2011, 07:41:02 PM »

 Here are some more links on the subject
What you NEED to know about patents
http://www.cambia.org.au/daisy/AgroTran/3793/841.html
http://www.wadeson.net.au/patents.html
What is a patent?
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:x0-Hj2DvWLoJ:www.swaab.com.au/publications/permanentpubs/ip/What%2520is%2520a%2520patent%2B.pdf+can+you+be+infringing+a+patent+application%3F&hl=en&gl=au&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiQdw0FMLbYS7zxFzQ1T8isZsSBTWmGlsosDggrIdel08QuP9mBy5cDBIEV-04IJZ-Y3InjCKC6lAHSp_q-klTNTrv3iz_neoBD0qU-_E32mvP7wR11aXMe0RboX2sAUlhDvYi5&sig=AHIEtbQMYeKHZOz3qNKWtsS51Hlk4GMxbA
Patent applications in  Australia
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:Cz5aLrIIATsJ:www.iplink.com.au/Sites/1446/Images%2520Files/Patent%2520Applications%2520in%2520Australia.pdf+can+you+be+infringing+a+patent+application%3F&hl=en&gl=au&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShJhppUtNlxq3GDhIBoSjcY3STQB3KbdsyULEPmvOIB6TnlLaPNpXjKySvsOmOu01ZV2yZTa2ERllZW66s7VVxtzX2IG0yV7Sc1xyWbFgFfnGzOrxw-rfqjk_9lj4mT6_3UVozD&sig=AHIEtbQAkNfOTCaqkhL1768QWhmaTv-iaQ
http://www.beagar.com.au/Innovation%20Patent.htm
AUSTRALIAN PATENT LAW CHANGES
http://www.ficpi.org/newsletters/50/AUreform.html
Early Enforcement Down Under
http://www.ipfrontline.com/depts/article.aspx?id=16754&deptid=4
http://www.switzer.com.au/the-experts/robert-wulff
Divisional Applications
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:_ku9FPEW-RcJ:www.ipaustralia.gov.au/pdfs/patents/specific/div.pdf+divisional+innovation+patent&hl=en&gl=au&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjcqJrgwVMDYt_yvvxd_wMjTO9qZDscO9nAGNBbC6Lazg-hYWscxXXXpl-Xdeehl-Gsx2o6KQDTm16GhI1phJpXmchH4GgmWx1JfQlAocP8FJl4v0uXkAy60UdE2deEWedftnZ8&sig=AHIEtbQYl-ObYsNEO9r5bTQ2wpIh7vgE2Q
Successful application of innovation patent strategy - 1 June 2010
http://www.mallesons.com/publications/2010/Jun/10360989W.htm
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2011, 07:57:38 PM »

I got to thinking the other day and the term "ego edifice" came to mind.
Googling provided the following.

http://www.innerfrontier.org/Practices/Greed.htm
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2011, 11:40:45 PM »

I got to thinking the other day and the term "ego edifice" came to mind.
Googling provided the following.

http://www.innerfrontier.org/Practices/Greed.htm



Thanks for clarifying which ego you were takling about Bugs. Here are some extracts to lift your spirits!

- The innovation patent system allows the holder to obtain an enforceable patent very quickly.
- It allows the holder to take commercial action (manufature & market) defending or entering a market much earlier.
- The “classic strategy of opposing a patent application to delay infringement proceedings” does now no longer offer the "protection" it once did.

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