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« on: Thursday April 4 2019 05:08:19 AEDT AM »

A very curious video.

  
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« Reply #1 on: Thursday April 4 2019 06:30:04 AEDT AM »

GOLD HUNTER: "You Must understand that with today's Technology We can do that ; Not only to find Just Gold but I know that We can go up to 3 Meters Dip ; I know how to put that Detector in the Work Shop ; The only problem I have is to Make that one detector to make the Test but the makers of that they like me to put the order for that with out the test ;?"

Something like bluff detector.
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« Reply #2 on: Thursday April 4 2019 10:33:36 AEDT AM »

  
GOLD HUNTER: "You Must understand that with today's Technology We can do that ; Not only to find Just Gold but I know that We can go up to 3 Meters Dip ; I know how to put that Detector in the Work Shop ; The only problem I have is to Make that one detector to make the Test but the makers of that they like me to put the order for that with out the test ;?"

Something like bluff detector.

The guy is a nutter and and is currently promoting a "radar gold detector" LRL
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« Reply #3 on: Thursday April 4 2019 10:38:21 AEDT AM »

The detector being used appears to be a Nokta Macro Deep Hunter. Nokta make some exceptional claims about this detector.
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« Reply #4 on: Thursday April 4 2019 10:49:59 AEDT AM »

Another video
  
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday April 4 2019 11:04:05 AEDT AM »

A not very happy customer!!!!
moses serrano on September 27, 2018 at 21:26
“----so don’t waste your money an expensive deep hunter…if I’m able to return it and get another metal detector from them ..I would try out the kruzer or the CF77 with the lagerest search coil for depth..this deep hunter is just a waste of $5.5700 dollars… “
  
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« Reply #6 on: Thursday April 4 2019 11:10:12 AEDT AM »

  
Another video
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For such a large target with that size surface area then other detectors with a similar size coil would have to hit that size target at that depth if laying flat and not on its edge.  

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday April 4 2019 19:37:19 AEDT PM »

Nut or no nut the point is that the Deep Hunter that is an IB detector gets a gold nugget of significant size that the GPX 4500 (modified version) does not, both with similar coil sizes.
Disregarding facts on the bases of - this guy is a nutter - does not seem very scientific to me.

Despite his peculiarities Matt is a prospector for over 40 years with proven success and 3 times Australian champion in gold panning competition.
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« Reply #8 on: Thursday April 4 2019 21:08:14 AEDT PM »

  
Nut or no nut the point is that the Deep Hunter that is an IB detector gets a gold nugget of significant size that the GPX 4500 (modified version) does not, both with similar coil sizes.
Disregarding facts on the bases of - this guy is a nutter - does not seem very scientific to me.

Despite his peculiarities Matt is a prospector for over 40 years with proven success and 3 times Australian champion in gold panning competition.

Anyone that promotes or believes in an  "radar gold detector"  LRL is either  gullible, stupid or a scam merchant or all 3!
Here is a video of his LRL nonsense! Sadly some gullibles will be taken in with this nonsense!
  
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« Reply #9 on: Friday April 5 2019 05:08:20 AEDT AM »

  
  
Nut or no nut the point is that the Deep Hunter that is an IB detector gets a gold nugget of significant size that the GPX 4500 (modified version) does not, both with similar coil sizes.
Disregarding facts on the bases of - this guy is a nutter - does not seem very scientific to me.

Despite his peculiarities Matt is a prospector for over 40 years with proven success and 3 times Australian champion in gold panning competition.

Anyone that promotes or believes in an  "radar gold detector"  LRL is either  gullible, stupid or a scam merchant or all 3!
Here is a video of his LRL nonsense! Sadly some gullibles will be taken in with this nonsense!
  
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I think he is one of the gullibles. He seems to truly believe that this things are working and he mentioned in some of his other videos that he is not selling or promoting this things, but he believes they would work well for him.

BUT I did not open this thread regarding LRL or to judge this man in any way. In fact I mention the LRL to be disregarded.

So back on topic. What happens with this 600 grams gold nugget? Why the GPX does not get it at miserable 70 cm depth, but a VLF does with a similar size coil?
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« Reply #10 on: Friday April 5 2019 05:52:04 AEDT AM »

  

So back on topic. What happens with this 600 grams gold nugget? Why the GPX does not get it at miserable 70 cm depth, but a VLF does with a similar size coil?


We must ask us about soil in testing location first.

No VLF/IB is able to go deeper than 15cm on really heavy Fe-mineralized soil.

On mild soil some VLF/IB  detectors can go deeper than PI detectors.

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« Reply #11 on: Sunday April 14 2019 13:35:44 AEST PM »

Gold Hunter just posted a video 30 inch Nexus coil. (George) Dontbstme
  
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« Reply #12 on: Sunday April 14 2019 14:39:34 AEST PM »

Have a look at 5:40 in. A change in coil proximity to ground is producing a signal. Why wasn't a GB performed ?
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday April 14 2019 14:56:52 AEST PM »

Also if a proper Ground Balance was performed would the Detector operate in his Normal timing that he used for the test over the surrounding ground away from his test target?  

The Detector needs to be capable of operating over the surrounding mineralised ground for a proper test without ground noise responses as a target at depth needs to be heard without feedback from the ground.

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« Reply #14 on: Sunday April 14 2019 19:04:13 AEST PM »

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« Reply #15 on: Sunday April 14 2019 21:09:13 AEST PM »

  
Gold Hunter just posted a video 30 inch Nexus coil. (George) Dontbstme
  
i do not believe one bit of this video see attatched screen shot should be screaming its head off 


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« Reply #16 on: Sunday April 14 2019 21:47:35 AEST PM »

Good point D777 as at the 6.05 minute mark not a response from the coil with the target that close to it.

Then from the 7.17  minute mark he switches via the rear screen out of his mode, what ever that means and most likely his custom setting , into normal GPX mode.

However that large lead target still should of produced a signal response at the 6.05 minute mark since he was in Normal timing on the front switch.

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« Reply #17 on: Sunday April 14 2019 22:00:57 AEST PM »

  
Good point D777 as at the 6.05 minute mark not a response from the coil with the target that close to it.

Then from the 7.17  minute mark he switches via the rear screen out of his mode, what ever that means and most likely his custom setting , into normal GPX mode.

However that large lead target still should of produced a signal response at the 6.05 minute mark since he was in Normal timing on the front switch.

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exactly what i thought gazz, a bit wierd hey, hopefully the maker will give an explanation  excited howz it been goin anyway hope your getting out in the bush lately mate.  happy face
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« Reply #18 on: Monday April 15 2019 00:38:03 AEST AM »

  
Good point D777 as at the 6.05 minute mark not a response from the coil with the target that close to it.

Then from the 7.17  minute mark he switches via the rear screen out of his mode, what ever that means and most likely his custom setting , into normal GPX mode.

However that large lead target still should of produced a signal response at the 6.05 minute mark since he was in Normal timing on the front switch.

Gary.

This is a concentric coil, not mono or DD. CC work differently than Mono and DD and are not sensitive to sideways targets especially in Cancel mode.
Here is a similar test done by my self with similar responses to a similar size target at the same depth of 40" on a ground that is for sure more mineralised than the ground Matt is testing on.

  

The least you can all do is compare these two videos and judge if there can be any merit in any of them.

Matt lives in Ballarat. I am sure he will never turn down anyone who would like to see this prototype and test it for him self.





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« Reply #19 on: Monday April 15 2019 00:58:27 AEST AM »

hi ..that explains the side sensativity, but it still should have been picked up by top of the coil at this distance you would think. the comment about go and see matt about the coil, well hes proven to be a nutter so you would take his comments with a grain of salt anyway. this should have been sent to reg wilson to test not this guy matt that has a bad rep. i think your hurting your own sales, reg would have been the first person i would have approached. good luck anyway.
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