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« on: Tuesday August 14 2018 16:59:34 AEST PM »

Had a chance today to directly compare my QED against a 2300 at a Dunolly goldfield. Both of us found some targets, then I tested the QED response against the 2300 response using the 2300 found targets, then tested the 2300 response for the targets found by the QED.

In all cases, the QED response was brighter and more noticeable. In some cases where the 2300 response was just discernible, the QED response was clear and strong.

I was using an 8” round commander coil, with the following settings:
GB: 115 - 135
B: 2 below null (set at 48)
A: 50
Gain: 6
Mode: 1

These results back up the latest video posted by Howard (QED vs 2300) , but in a goldfield using undug targets.

Most unfortunately all targets were not gold, mostly really small shot.
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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday August 14 2018 20:31:04 AEST PM »

Thanks for your efforts in confirming the video. The coil size plays a big role in detection distance on the vast range of target sizes.
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« Reply #2 on: Thursday August 16 2018 15:49:55 AEST PM »

  
Had a chance today to directly compare my QED against a 2300 at a Dunolly goldfield. Both of us found some targets, then I tested the QED response against the 2300 response using the 2300 found targets, then tested the 2300 response for the targets found by the QED.

In all cases, the QED response was brighter and more noticeable. In some cases where the 2300 response was just discernible, the QED response was clear and strong.

I was using an 8” round commander coil, with the following settings:
GB: 115 - 135
B: 2 below null (set at 48)
A: 50
Gain: 6
Mode: 1

These results back up the latest video posted by Howard (QED vs 2300) , but in a goldfield using undug targets.

Most unfortunately all targets were not gold, mostly really small shot.
Could mode 1 be used on the ground for normal use. I find their are to much ground noise and hot rocks with mode 1 for normal use. Was it used for just testing. Pity targets werent gold targets for proper test of undug targets. We have found SD 2300 pick up some gold that qed dont even in mode 1 and bias low and qed can pick up some deep gold SD 2300 dont with high setting. Maybe better comparison is with GP and GPX and GPZ detectors as SD 2300 not very versatile as these and qed
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« Reply #3 on: Thursday August 16 2018 16:28:17 AEST PM »

  
  
Had a chance today to directly compare my QED against a 2300 at a Dunolly goldfield. Both of us found some targets, then I tested the QED response against the 2300 response using the 2300 found targets, then tested the 2300 response for the targets found by the QED.

In all cases, the QED response was brighter and more noticeable. In some cases where the 2300 response was just discernible, the QED response was clear and strong.

I was using an 8” round commander coil, with the following settings:
GB: 115 - 135
B: 2 below null (set at 48)
A: 50
Gain: 6
Mode: 1

These results back up the latest video posted by Howard (QED vs 2300) , but in a goldfield using undug targets.

Most unfortunately all targets were not gold, mostly really small shot.
Could mode 1 be used on the ground for normal use. I find their are to much ground noise and hot rocks with mode 1 for normal use. Was it used for just testing. Pity targets werent gold targets for proper test of undug targets. We have found SD 2300 pick up some gold that qed dont even in mode 1 and bias low and qed can pick up some deep gold SD 2300 dont with high setting. Maybe better comparison is with GP and GPX and GPZ detectors as SD 2300 not very versatile as these and qed

Mode 1 is best for tiny targets if used in conjunction with a small coil. The quality of the coil is also important.
What coil did you use for the comparison ?
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« Reply #4 on: Thursday August 16 2018 17:27:56 AEST PM »

Around Maryborough today, again using the 8” minelab commander with the following settings:
GB: 120
B: 49 (1 under null)
A: 65
Gain: 5
Mode: 1

A bit noisy, dropped A to 50, left other settings as above and pinged a nice .3g nugget, but found many other metal targets.

As for my original post, I was using mode 1 all day as that area at dunolly coped with mode 1. We were detecting all day but as we were close to each other we marked our early targets (without digging), then at a convenient time tested as described. So yes I was detecting with mode 1 and using other settings (A, gain and B) to stay in mode 1. It can be done.
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday August 16 2018 17:38:21 AEST PM »

Hi all, in one area today I did increase mode to 5, tested response with my test piece and was happy with result. This was done as the ground got very hot, GB went up to 135, but as soon as the GB was back to 120ish, I reset mode back to 1 and continued on my merry way, snagging the nugget soon after.
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« Reply #6 on: Thursday August 16 2018 17:52:09 AEST PM »

Thanks for your report Goldman.

The site link below has 8" commander mono coils for $235, a pretty keen price and they work very well with the QED in Mode 1 (ground dependent of course).

  
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« Reply #7 on: Friday August 17 2018 13:15:06 AEST PM »

Goldman could you run the QED and 2300 together ? or did you have to switch one off ?
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« Reply #8 on: Friday August 17 2018 15:36:45 AEST PM »

Had to turn each off in turn when testing the responses. You can’t run two detectors (of any type) that close together. Whilst detecting we were about 30 - 50 metres apart and had no interference.
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« Reply #9 on: Friday August 17 2018 16:38:27 AEST PM »

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« Reply #10 on: Friday August 17 2018 16:59:07 AEST PM »

I should have changed to my Sadie, and checked to see which mode was best with it. As I have used the Sadie quite a bit I know that I can’t normally run in mode 1, especially at Welha and in some areas around dunolly and certainly not in WA, so I was especially surprised to be able to use mode 1 with the 8” commander. This is my brothers coil, so based on my recent experience with it, I am going to purchase one as I found it an excellent coil out front of my QED. I should also note that I generally use the 15” spoked EVO, which I find to also be a great match. See my thread “WA report” for my experience with it in WA.
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« Reply #11 on: Friday August 17 2018 17:01:06 AEST PM »

  
  
  
  
Had a chance today to directly compare my QED against a 2300 at a Dunolly goldfield. Both of us found some targets, then I tested the QED response against the 2300 response using the 2300 found targets, then tested the 2300 response for the targets found by the QED.

In all cases, the QED response was brighter and more noticeable. In some cases where the 2300 response was just discernible, the QED response was clear and strong.

I was using an 8” round commander coil, with the following settings:
GB: 115 - 135
B: 2 below null (set at 48)
A: 50
Gain: 6
Mode: 1

These results back up the latest video posted by Howard (QED vs 2300) , but in a goldfield using undug targets.

Most unfortunately all targets were not gold, mostly really small shot.
Could mode 1 be used on the ground for normal use. I find their are to much ground noise and hot rocks with mode 1 for normal use. Was it used for just testing. Pity targets werent gold targets for proper test of undug targets. We have found SD 2300 pick up some gold that qed dont even in mode 1 and bias low and qed can pick up some deep gold SD 2300 dont with high setting. Maybe better comparison is with GP and GPX and GPZ detectors as SD 2300 not very versatile as these and qed

Mode 1 is best for tiny targets if used in conjunction with a small coil. The quality of the coil is also important.
What coil did you use for the comparison ?

Use a few different ones. A borrowed 6" mono coil light brown color I think it was Coiltech. A new minlab commander 8" mono. A well used 11" detec mono like supplied with qed. All seem sensitive in mode 1 tests. All seem to be better to detect with on ground in mode 3 or higher. Didnt like the 6" at all. Not my coil. Seemed to noisy. Best coil for me is 11" detec runs good mostly in 3. Depending on ground can use mode up to 6 and still pretty good sensitive to small bits and good depth. GB varies 105 - 135. B 48-49 small coils 50-52 11" coil. A 50 use headphones sennheiser 160. Gain 4-5. Detector run well with these settings and finding gold. Just find mode 1 even with small coil pick up a lot more hot rock and ground noise in a lot of places. Always adjust balance up and down checking noises. Works but prefer to be able to keep detecting not check all the time so use higher mode in this places. In milder ground it's ok and very sensitive in mode 1. After testing on already found gold and doing proper detecting found no gold with 6". Gold under a gram with 8" coil. Gold under and over gram with 11". 11" seem to have best range and is why I like it on qed.
Thanks for that report bazzo. very informative. cheers
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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday August 28 2018 18:46:00 AEST PM »

just got back today from 3 days out bush, found nothing but lead shot, and a couple 22 cases, even though not much detecting more an exploration trip out to where the species came from last time out, plenty of same looking surface float, but not a hit on any that we checked, another couple of months left out there yet before i write it off though,perserverance lol  excited
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday September 2 2018 09:13:07 AEST AM »

HERES A GREAT WRITE UP FROM A NEW QED USER OVER ON PA FORUM,  happy face                                                                  Yesterday 10:19 pm
Finally I have had an airing with a QED with one of the most experienced Detectorist's in the country and The Tester.
No names will be mentioned but to both Howard and Reg,You will find out.
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link-https://www.prospectingaustralia.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=436694#p436694
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« Reply #14 on: Sunday September 2 2018 09:57:34 AEST AM »

  
HERES A GREAT WRITE UP FROM A NEW QED USER OVER ON PA FORUM,  happy face                                                                  Yesterday 10:19 pm
Finally I have had an airing with a QED with one of the most experienced Detectorist's in the country and The Tester.
No names will be mentioned but to both Howard and Reg,You will find out.
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link-https://www.prospectingaustralia.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=436694#p436694
Edited  by doug  Sunday September 2 2018 09:53:37 AEST AM
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no probs doug, cheers for the info mate.... happy face
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« Reply #15 on: Sunday September 2 2018 10:01:35 AEST AM »

 No worries! happy face
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« Reply #16 on: Sunday September 2 2018 10:07:12 AEST AM »

  
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lol im banned too, i rekon most of us here are banned over there, good old ararat gold main instigator over there.  LOL
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« Reply #17 on: Sunday September 2 2018 10:11:42 AEST AM »

i always try to keep the qed thread in the top 5 over on flinders too, currently sitting at number 1 at moment.  excited
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