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« on: Sunday July 17 2016 21:54:07 AEST PM »

How were the Chinese able to  achieve this?
Re: Another fake GPX 5000 on EBay.
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“----I verified that it is in fact a complete copy of the GPX series including the software.--
Interesting that the Chinese copy outperformed the ML 5000 on the bench! However SETA  does not work on the Chinese copies
  
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« Reply #1 on: Monday July 18 2016 21:59:00 AEST PM »

Good pick up
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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday July 19 2016 01:34:18 AEST AM »

  If the SETA does not work it is not a complete copy.  It would be a incomplete copy.  Bench testing is about worthless.  Being out in the field actually digging gold is the best test.

  
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday July 19 2016 09:19:47 AEST AM »

  
 If the SETA does not work it is not a complete copy.  It would be a incomplete copy.  Bench testing is about worthless.  Being out in the field actually digging gold is the best test.

  

But how did the Chinese manage to  copy so much of it? Bench testing is definitely not worthless!
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday July 19 2016 11:20:27 AEST AM »

The gpx circuit is very complex and uses a multi layer board.It would be almost impossible to reverse engineer  especially as all the  circuit components are covered with a protective layer and the component  ID's are also protected as is the all of the software. So the question remains as to how the Chinese were able to exactly duplicate("what I am talking of are the EXACT duplicates") most if not not all the circuit and most of the firmware(only missing the SETA software)
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday July 19 2016 12:44:49 AEST PM »

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday July 19 2016 13:10:21 AEST PM »

  
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Apparently the Chinese circuit is beautifully made and  is quieter (Better S/N) than the genuine product!!!
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday July 19 2016 16:21:19 AEST PM »

  
The gpx circuit is very complex and uses a multi layer board.It would be almost impossible to reverse engineer  especially as all the  circuit components are covered with a protective layer and the component  ID's are also protected as is the all of the software. So the question remains as to how the Chinese were able to exactly duplicate("what I am talking of are the EXACT duplicates") most if not not all the circuit and most of the firmware(only missing the SETA software)
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Doug, do you really not know why?
Or are you going senile?
Answer this, Why did ML lose it's military contract a few years back?
Do you need a memory jogger?
Do you recall how a employee of ML visited China and got hacked, lost very sensitive data.
I could look into it more, but that should be enough to get you goggling away. 
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday July 19 2016 19:29:01 AEST PM »

  
  
The gpx circuit is very complex and uses a multi layer board.It would be almost impossible to reverse engineer  especially as all the  circuit components are covered with a protective layer and the component  ID's are also protected as is the all of the software. So the question remains as to how the Chinese were able to exactly duplicate("what I am talking of are the EXACT duplicates") most if not not all the circuit and most of the firmware(only missing the SETA software)
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Doug, do you really not know why?
Or are you going senile?
Answer this, Why did ML lose it's military contract a few years back?
Do you need a memory jogger?
Do you recall how a employee of ML visited China and got hacked, lost very sensitive data.
I could look into it more, but that should be enough to get you goggling away. 

Please  tell us more.
thanks,
doug smile
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday July 19 2016 20:51:36 AEST PM »

  


Do you recall how a employee of ML visited China and got hacked, lost very sensitive data.


Intentionally?

What those employee was seeking in China with all those sensitive ML data?

Vacation in China with complete ML sensitive database in laptop?

How Chinese know who from million tourists are ML employee and what is on someone laptop?

Or it is all about wrong business decision to move production line in China, where stolen technology is very known standard?
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday July 20 2016 00:01:04 AEST AM »

  
  
  
The gpx circuit is very complex and uses a multi layer board.It would be almost impossible to reverse engineer  especially as all the  circuit components are covered with a protective layer and the component  ID's are also protected as is the all of the software. So the question remains as to how the Chinese were able to exactly duplicate("what I am talking of are the EXACT duplicates") most if not not all the circuit and most of the firmware(only missing the SETA software)
doug smile

Doug, do you really not know why?
Or are you going senile?
Answer this, Why did ML lose it's military contract a few years back?
Do you need a memory jogger?
Do you recall how a employee of ML visited China and got hacked, lost very sensitive data.
I could look into it more, but that should be enough to get you goggling away. 

Please  tell us more.
thanks,
doug smile

  
  
  


Codan CEO, Donald McGurk, could not talk about the details of the attack on camera to Four Corners, but said the company has recently taken serious steps to improve the security on its computer systems with multiple firewalls.

According to the report, an ASIO investigation found Chinese hackers found a vector into the Codan network when an executive from the company visited China and logged into the Wi-Fi at his hotel.

The hackers inserted malware onto  his work laptop, which then infected the computer system in Australia. The malware contained code designed to target files on the Codan system – specifically, design information regarding the secure military radio system used by Australia and its allies.
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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday July 20 2016 06:46:28 AEST AM »

  China needs to be sent a big virus that knocks out all their computers.  And refuse to buy any thing they make.  Might hurt for a while, but good countrys will pick up their slack.  Right? 
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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday July 20 2016 09:31:07 AEST AM »

  
 China needs to be sent a big virus that knocks out all their computers.  And refuse to buy any thing they make.  Might hurt for a while, but good countrys will pick up their slack.  Right?  

China is a banned country on this forum.Anyone who tries to access this forum from china will be blocked by the forum firewall. See some recent examples of the firewall blocking china (CN)
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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday July 20 2016 12:01:51 AEST PM »

  China can get on here by using one of them spots that let you use a different IP address.

  Ever catch one of them Doug?
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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday July 20 2016 12:06:15 AEST PM »

  
 China can get on here by using one of them spots that let you use a different IP address.

  Ever catch one of them Doug?

True! Yes i have caught some because their user agent is on a blacklist! Here is an example but not from China.
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