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« on: Sunday March 11 2018 13:32:35 AEDT PM »

Re: THE QED - PL2
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Yes the QED is a single channel Pi but uses 2 different pulse lengths to achieve  the Gb. The GB hole will also be dependent (shift) on the mode used.
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« Reply #1 on: Sunday March 11 2018 15:18:02 AEDT PM »

  
Re: THE QED - PL2
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Yes the QED is a single channel Pi but uses 2 different pulse lengths to achieve  the Gb. The GB hole will also be dependent (shift) on the mode used.
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Rick still does not  fully understand the QED! He has not understood the significance of the 2 different pulse lengths. He says that ML's won't have as many holes as the QED because the ML uses MPS. But every different timing in ML's GPX will have a different GB detection hole and the hole will also  be dependent on the  level of mineralization and the time constant of the nugget (eg their is a huge  detection hole on some long Tc nuggets  when the smooth timings are used)and the S/N in the Rx circuit eg high EMI.
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« Reply #2 on: Sunday March 11 2018 22:11:15 AEDT PM »

I've heard someone say that the QED is better than the gpx 5000

If that's the case, then Ararat in saying that the QED isn't better than the gpx 4500,  then I think that's a very bold statement especially when the user has only had the QED for a few days?
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« Reply #3 on: Sunday March 11 2018 22:28:26 AEDT PM »

  
I've heard someone say that the QED is better than the gpx 5000

If that's the case, then Ararat in saying that the QED isn't better than the gpx 4500,  then I think that's a very bold statement especially when the user has only had the QED for a few days?

Opinion is very divided on this one that's for sure!
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« Reply #4 on: Sunday March 11 2018 23:30:23 AEDT PM »

  
  
I've heard someone say that the QED is better than the gpx 5000

If that's the case, then Ararat in saying that the QED isn't better than the gpx 4500,  then I think that's a very bold statement especially when the user has only had the QED for a few days?

Opinion is very divided on this one that's for sure!
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So you are saying that the QED is not better than a gpx 4500 or a gpx 5000?
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« Reply #5 on: Monday March 12 2018 09:54:14 AEDT AM »

  
  
  
I've heard someone say that the QED is better than the gpx 5000

If that's the case, then Ararat in saying that the QED isn't better than the gpx 4500,  then I think that's a very bold statement especially when the user has only had the QED for a few days?

Opinion is very divided on this one that's for sure!
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Doug,
So you are saying that the QED is not better than a gpx 4500 or a gpx 5000?

Better value for money, lighter and more ergonomic , firmware upgradable and more immune to  EMI than the gpx  so just from these points points yes its better.
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« Reply #6 on: Monday March 12 2018 10:04:57 AEDT AM »

This from Maldon Gold Centre on another forum.
"However, the QED is heads and shoulders above a 4500"
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday April 17 2018 11:02:51 AEST AM »

go back throu ararat golds posts there all over the place re qed, i wouldnt take toooooo much notice one bit, he hasnt seemed to master it yet going by some comments. in my opinion.   
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday August 11 2018 14:41:43 AEST PM »

  
This from Maldon Gold Centre on another forum.
"However, the QED is heads and shoulders above a 4500"
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Would you expect the seller to say anything less. It close but not there yet. Can be a bit washy on some targets like signal there then seems to go sometimes.Its lightweight but the finish always worry me in the Bush. Cable into display on pl2 handle worries me that it can be damaged. Cable light looks easy to damage. Cable into control box under arm handle also worries me. I've taped it all down with duct tape best I can. Still a worry if accidently bumped. The ribbon cable is to light. The plastic legs on the control box need to be metal and more stable sturdy. The battery cover can come off easily and one of mine was a bit warped. Didnt fit proper and keep coming off so threw away. Will try to make something better. Whole thing needs to be more sturdy for Bush use and protection from accidental bumps or slides. Cables need to be more heavy duty with better connection into display and control box. Ribbon cable accident waiting to happen. Can still be lightweight with a better build and better cables. Still it works well for price but that's my take on it. My mates with minlab sd gpx gpz find more gold. The qed still get gold for half price just half as much to. gpz beats us all but to deer for me
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« Reply #9 on: Saturday August 11 2018 16:35:21 AEST PM »

  
  
This from Maldon Gold Centre on another forum.
"However, the QED is heads and shoulders above a 4500"
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Would you expect the seller to say anything less. It close but not there yet. Can be a bit washy on some targets like signal there then seems to go sometimes.Its lightweight but the finish always worry me in the Bush. Cable into display on pl2 handle worries me that it can be damaged. Cable light looks easy to damage. Cable into control box under arm handle also worries me. I've taped it all down with duct tape best I can. Still a worry if accidently bumped. The ribbon cable is to light. The plastic legs on the control box need to be metal and more stable sturdy. The battery cover can come off easily and one of mine was a bit warped. Didnt fit proper and keep coming off so threw away. Will try to make something better. Whole thing needs to be more sturdy for Bush use and protection from accidental bumps or slides. Cables need to be more heavy duty with better connection into display and control box. Ribbon cable accident waiting to happen. Can still be lightweight with a better build and better cables. Still it works well for price but that's my take on it. My mates with minlab sd gpx gpz find more gold. The qed still get gold for half price just half as much to. gpz beats us all but to deer for me


The QED is still a work in progress with improvements being made all the time. The ribbon cable is now in a hard circular round plastic sheath. The battery cover has been changed to grip better. I will post pics a bit later.
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« Reply #10 on: Saturday August 11 2018 17:03:57 AEST PM »

  
  
  
This from Maldon Gold Centre on another forum.
"However, the QED is heads and shoulders above a 4500"
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Would you expect the seller to say anything less. It close but not there yet. Can be a bit washy on some targets like signal there then seems to go sometimes.Its lightweight but the finish always worry me in the Bush. Cable into display on pl2 handle worries me that it can be damaged. Cable light looks easy to damage. Cable into control box under arm handle also worries me. I've taped it all down with duct tape best I can. Still a worry if accidently bumped. The ribbon cable is to light. The plastic legs on the control box need to be metal and more stable sturdy. The battery cover can come off easily and one of mine was a bit warped. Didnt fit proper and keep coming off so threw away. Will try to make something better. Whole thing needs to be more sturdy for Bush use and protection from accidental bumps or slides. Cables need to be more heavy duty with better connection into display and control box. Ribbon cable accident waiting to happen. Can still be lightweight with a better build and better cables. Still it works well for price but that's my take on it. My mates with minlab sd gpx gpz find more gold. The qed still get gold for half price just half as much to. gpz beats us all but to deer for me


The QED is still a work in progress with improvements being made all the time. The ribbon cable is now in a hard circular round plastic sheath. The battery cover has been changed to grip better. I will post pics a bit later.


Maybe your mates know how to use their machines?
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« Reply #11 on: Saturday August 11 2018 18:21:11 AEST PM »

not worth the effort to write a response to that nonsense  smile
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday August 11 2018 20:14:26 AEST PM »

  
  
This from Maldon Gold Centre on another forum.
"However, the QED is heads and shoulders above a 4500"
doug smile
Would you expect the seller to say anything less. It close but not there yet. Can be a bit washy on some targets like signal there then seems to go sometimes.Its lightweight but the finish always worry me in the Bush. Cable into display on pl2 handle worries me that it can be damaged. Cable light looks easy to damage. Cable into control box under arm handle also worries me. I've taped it all down with duct tape best I can. Still a worry if accidently bumped. The ribbon cable is to light. The plastic legs on the control box need to be metal and more stable sturdy. The battery cover can come off easily and one of mine was a bit warped. Didnt fit proper and keep coming off so threw away. Will try to make something better. Whole thing needs to be more sturdy for Bush use and protection from accidental bumps or slides. Cables need to be more heavy duty with better connection into display and control box. Ribbon cable accident waiting to happen. Can still be lightweight with a better build and better cables. Still it works well for price but that's my take on it. My mates with minlab sd gpx gpz find more gold. The qed still get gold for half price just half as much to. gpz beats us all but to deer for me

Hey mate,
How long have you been prospecting for?
The reason I ask is that it tells me that you are not very good at using your QED.
Maybe, get out with another QED user to compare good luck
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« Reply #13 on: Saturday August 11 2018 21:32:05 AEST PM »

  
  
  
This from Maldon Gold Centre on another forum.
"However, the QED is heads and shoulders above a 4500"
doug smile
Would you expect the seller to say anything less. It close but not there yet. Can be a bit washy on some targets like signal there then seems to go sometimes.Its lightweight but the finish always worry me in the Bush. Cable into display on pl2 handle worries me that it can be damaged. Cable light looks easy to damage. Cable into control box under arm handle also worries me. I've taped it all down with duct tape best I can. Still a worry if accidently bumped. The ribbon cable is to light. The plastic legs on the control box need to be metal and more stable sturdy. The battery cover can come off easily and one of mine was a bit warped. Didnt fit proper and keep coming off so threw away. Will try to make something better. Whole thing needs to be more sturdy for Bush use and protection from accidental bumps or slides. Cables need to be more heavy duty with better connection into display and control box. Ribbon cable accident waiting to happen. Can still be lightweight with a better build and better cables. Still it works well for price but that's my take on it. My mates with minlab sd gpx gpz find more gold. The qed still get gold for half price just half as much to. gpz beats us all but to deer for me


The QED is still a work in progress with improvements being made all the time. The ribbon cable is now in a hard circular round plastic sheath. The battery cover has been changed to grip better. I will post pics a bit later.

Thank you for the answer. Can these improvements be purchased from one of the sellers. Price.
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday August 11 2018 21:38:35 AEST PM »

  
not worth the effort to write a response to that nonsense  smile
Not nonsense as I got a sensible reply from the maker of the qed. The things I worry about have been improved so why is that nonsense. My worries are good enough for improvement to be made already and this is why I raised them. Things dont get improved on if you say nothing. I must not have been the only one worried with these things. I didnt write it for you're response or blessings anyway. Nice photo to.
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« Reply #15 on: Saturday August 11 2018 21:50:50 AEST PM »

  
  
  
This from Maldon Gold Centre on another forum.
"However, the QED is heads and shoulders above a 4500"
doug smile
Would you expect the seller to say anything less. It close but not there yet. Can be a bit washy on some targets like signal there then seems to go sometimes.Its lightweight but the finish always worry me in the Bush. Cable into display on pl2 handle worries me that it can be damaged. Cable light looks easy to damage. Cable into control box under arm handle also worries me. I've taped it all down with duct tape best I can. Still a worry if accidently bumped. The ribbon cable is to light. The plastic legs on the control box need to be metal and more stable sturdy. The battery cover can come off easily and one of mine was a bit warped. Didnt fit proper and keep coming off so threw away. Will try to make something better. Whole thing needs to be more sturdy for Bush use and protection from accidental bumps or slides. Cables need to be more heavy duty with better connection into display and control box. Ribbon cable accident waiting to happen. Can still be lightweight with a better build and better cables. Still it works well for price but that's my take on it. My mates with minlab sd gpx gpz find more gold. The qed still get gold for half price just half as much to. gpz beats us all but to deer for me

Hey mate,
How long have tog been prospecting for?
The reason I ask is that you are winging for personal reasons which tells me that you are not very good at using your QED.  good luck
Who are you to comment. My search shows you probably dont own or use a qed anyways. I have been prospecting for lots of years with lots of detectors. How long you been scratching your bum. My post wasnt to winger. I raised valid points and the maker made sensible response that things are getting improved all the time. Probably from valid feedback from real users unlike you. Put you're money where you mouth is and buy one before commenting on others.I have found more gold with qed then I have seen anyone put on here including self appointed master detonator. Fact is I get beaten by good prospectors using expensive detectors I cant afford. They do seem impress with what I find still. If I cant use it good better go back and bury all the nuggets again. Grow up. I own and use qed so my right to constructive criticisms wish I hope will make it better for everyone down the road
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« Reply #16 on: Saturday August 11 2018 21:55:30 AEST PM »

  
  
  
  
This from Maldon Gold Centre on another forum.
"However, the QED is heads and shoulders above a 4500"
doug smile
Would you expect the seller to say anything less. It close but not there yet. Can be a bit washy on some targets like signal there then seems to go sometimes.Its lightweight but the finish always worry me in the Bush. Cable into display on pl2 handle worries me that it can be damaged. Cable light looks easy to damage. Cable into control box under arm handle also worries me. I've taped it all down with duct tape best I can. Still a worry if accidently bumped. The ribbon cable is to light. The plastic legs on the control box need to be metal and more stable sturdy. The battery cover can come off easily and one of mine was a bit warped. Didnt fit proper and keep coming off so threw away. Will try to make something better. Whole thing needs to be more sturdy for Bush use and protection from accidental bumps or slides. Cables need to be more heavy duty with better connection into display and control box. Ribbon cable accident waiting to happen. Can still be lightweight with a better build and better cables. Still it works well for price but that's my take on it. My mates with minlab sd gpx gpz find more gold. The qed still get gold for half price just half as much to. gpz beats us all but to deer for me


The QED is still a work in progress with improvements being made all the time. The ribbon cable is now in a hard circular round plastic sheath. The battery cover has been changed to grip better. I will post pics a bit later.


Maybe your mates know how to use their machines?
They do. So do I. Finding gold are you
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« Reply #17 on: Saturday August 11 2018 21:59:22 AEST PM »

  
  
  
This from Maldon Gold Centre on another forum.
"However, the QED is heads and shoulders above a 4500"
doug smile
Would you expect the seller to say anything less. It close but not there yet. Can be a bit washy on some targets like signal there then seems to go sometimes.Its lightweight but the finish always worry me in the Bush. Cable into display on pl2 handle worries me that it can be damaged. Cable light looks easy to damage. Cable into control box under arm handle also worries me. I've taped it all down with duct tape best I can. Still a worry if accidently bumped. The ribbon cable is to light. The plastic legs on the control box need to be metal and more stable sturdy. The battery cover can come off easily and one of mine was a bit warped. Didnt fit proper and keep coming off so threw away. Will try to make something better. Whole thing needs to be more sturdy for Bush use and protection from accidental bumps or slides. Cables need to be more heavy duty with better connection into display and control box. Ribbon cable accident waiting to happen. Can still be lightweight with a better build and better cables. Still it works well for price but that's my take on it. My mates with minlab sd gpx gpz find more gold. The qed still get gold for half price just half as much to. gpz beats us all but to deer for me

Hey mate,
How long have you been prospecting for?
The reason I ask is that it tells me that you are not very good at using your QED.
Maybe, get out with another QED user to compare good luck
Hey smart bum. What detector do you use. Bet it is minlab. Find any big gold smartie. How long you been prospecting. Bet you just fossick the old heaps and patches that others show to you and think your a big time prospector. Get a qed or even use one before smart comments.

A bloke I know say he thinks you are Bobs Uncle.Full of cold piss
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« Reply #18 on: Saturday August 11 2018 22:07:10 AEST PM »

  
not worth the effort to write a response to that nonsense  smile
I cant comment on qed users show and tell. Is that a photo of 3.22 gram of gold. Could be anything. If it is gold congratulation. Are you throwing in you're day job
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« Reply #19 on: Saturday August 11 2018 23:34:51 AEST PM »

Hey Bazzo i ask you a couple of easy questions and you get defensive and abusive very quick smart.
Have a nice day.
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