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« on: Thursday May 31 2018 10:34:32 AEST AM »

 I actual quote
“Bogger”
“Reg post the vid up, would be interested to see how it goes as all the owner / users I have spoken with say the set up and getting it to run smooth is their main gripe with it---------- “
  
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« Reply #1 on: Thursday May 31 2018 14:37:04 AEST PM »

point me at the ad please
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« Reply #2 on: Thursday May 31 2018 16:46:45 AEST PM »

thats the qed from gumtree hes on about, was up for sale 1350, from memory no coils, i put a link up to it somewhere last week as it said it was stinky petes personal machine, then changed add to set up like his from memory. bogger is one of ricks hanger oners on the other forum, what ever he says he agrees with and more, what im getting at is why he was even after it anyway. glad it sold to someone else  excited
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« Reply #3 on: Thursday May 31 2018 16:56:51 AEST PM »

  
I see on another forum that someone is selling their QED. A  increasing common theme  or reason for the sale seems to be that they  "cannot get their QED to run stable or quiet".So  is additional info required in the instruction manual?
actual quote
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“Reg post the vid up, would be interested to see how it goes as all the owner / users I have spoken with say the set up and getting it to run smooth is their main gripe with it---------- “
  
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i rekon people only read manual once give it a go and put it in cupboard for another day, ive done it myself with the vlfs in the 90s, when the pi,s came out it made me read manual and re read several times over and even out in field, i have done exactly same thing with qed plus other settings research on forums, and have had no probs with the machine yet, before agb update, and after. you only get out of something what you put into it imo ........ p.s. maybe a quick start guide matched to the 11"detech coil its sold with for the newbies. other than that maybe all good here.  good luck
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« Reply #4 on: Thursday May 31 2018 17:46:59 AEST PM »

  
p.s. maybe a quick start guide matched to the 11"detech coil its sold with for the newbies. other than that maybe all good here.  good luck

Good suggestion! smile
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday May 31 2018 19:58:45 AEST PM »

Don't think we're missing that much to be honest, the QED won't suit everyone.
It's not a machine for the lazy prospector.
Like dasenator 777 said, “you only get out of something what you put into it”

Most of the moaners are in need of a fully Auto turn on and go, with ground tracking machine.
It still won't make them a prospector though.

I think Bogger may well be Groundrush, to lazy to get off his butt to try a QED out.
Wants everything handed to him on a plate.

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday May 31 2018 20:21:59 AEST PM »

I see on another forum that someone is selling their QED. A  increasing common theme  or reason for the sale seems to be that they  "cannot get their QED to run stable or quiet".So  is additional info required in the instruction manual?


Being a starter this has caused me some concern also. looked at Gumtree one that sold for $750 but no coils pulled me up.
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday May 31 2018 20:32:51 AEST PM »

  
Don't think we're missing that much to be honest, the QED won't suit everyone.
It's not a machine for the lazy prospector.
Like dasenator 777 said, “you only get out of something what you put into it”

Most of the moaners are in need of a fully Auto turn on and go, with ground tracking machine.
It still won't make them a prospector though.

I think Bogger may well be Groundrush, to lazy to get off his butt to try a QED out.
Wants everything handed to him on a plate.

Mal

No one starts out as an expert . Trial & error can be an expensive way to learn things
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« Reply #8 on: Thursday May 31 2018 20:41:34 AEST PM »

  
I see on another forum that someone is selling their QED. A  increasing common theme  or reason for the sale seems to be that they  "cannot get their QED to run stable or quiet".So  is additional info required in the instruction manual?



Please note that i edited my post to remove this comment because it was not what the poster actually said.My interpretation of the post was  misleading and
 hence in my edit i gave the exact quote and the relevant link for people to read and interpret themselves. Any QED users having QED problems or difficulties need only to contact  BW and i am sure he will be only too happy to help them.
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« Reply #9 on: Thursday May 31 2018 20:46:17 AEST PM »

Sorry I just pasted from post above me but someone else posted when I was typing. 
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« Reply #10 on: Thursday May 31 2018 20:50:54 AEST PM »

This comment from another recent QED user on PA in the same thread.
"-----------Finally i'd like to say that the QED is a well priced and well behaved machine. I'm happy with mine and willing to give it a fair chance in my search for the elusive gold"
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« Reply #11 on: Thursday May 31 2018 20:53:57 AEST PM »

  
Sorry I just pasted from post above me but someone else posted when I was typing. 

Don't worry it was my fault!! embarrased
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« Reply #12 on: Thursday May 31 2018 21:09:27 AEST PM »

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« Reply #13 on: Thursday May 31 2018 21:57:13 AEST PM »

Look, I don't know bogger, never met him.
But you have got him wrong.
He is, well was genuinely interested in the QED, and only decided against it due to recent S??? fight on other forums.
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« Reply #14 on: Friday June 1 2018 08:34:53 AEST AM »

  
thats the qed from gumtree hes on about, was up for sale 1350, from memory no coils, i put a link up to it somewhere last week as it said it was stinky petes personal machine, then changed add to set up like his from memory. bogger is one of ricks hanger oners on the other forum, what ever he says he agrees with and more, what im getting at is why he was even after it anyway. glad it sold to someone else  excited

Maybe to much of this which can only be described as diatribe and contains nothing about the gold stick. Purely an observation as a layman
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« Reply #15 on: Friday June 1 2018 09:12:23 AEST AM »

  
  
Don't think we're missing that much to be honest, the QED won't suit everyone.
It's not a machine for the lazy prospector.
Like dasenator 777 said, “you only get out of something what you put into it”

Most of the moaners are in need of a fully Auto turn on and go, with ground tracking machine.
It still won't make them a prospector though.

I think Bogger may well be Groundrush, to lazy to get off his butt to try a QED out.
Wants everything handed to him on a plate.

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No one starts out as an expert . Trial & error can be an expensive way to learn things
True. Not many prospectors on this forum. Lot of backyard testers. Be good to see more story of finding gold with the qed instead of arguments about testing set ups and ridicule of people trying to understand qed. Or is the qed for the expert prospector only. Sounds like it
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« Reply #16 on: Friday June 1 2018 10:48:55 AEST AM »

  
  
thats the qed from gumtree hes on about, was up for sale 1350, from memory no coils, i put a link up to it somewhere last week as it said it was stinky petes personal machine, then changed add to set up like his from memory. bogger is one of ricks hanger oners on the other forum, what ever he says he agrees with and more, what im getting at is why he was even after it anyway. glad it sold to someone else  excited

Maybe to much of this which can only be described as diatribe and contains nothing about the gold stick. Purely an observation as a layman
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« Reply #17 on: Thursday June 7 2018 11:14:37 AEST AM »

Just adding in my 2c worth here... The QED as egixe4 put it is not a detector for the lazy prospector and I agree, however it is at a price point where people who are only part time prospectors like my self will buy it because it offers good value for money. Or people are buying it because they just want to start out in detecting and its good value for money. It's possible that these two factors are leading to confusion as people purchasing it either believe it's easy to use and/or don't have enough time to understand the detector. Of couce this is a simplistic overview.

I like to understand how and why something work the way it does, a real in depth manual or videos about how the QED works, what is a null point and why it has it, how does THS-B and THS-A work, modes etc would be hugely beneficial and would probably clear up a lot of the confusion. I would love to get out more and practice but I don't have that luxury at this point in time. I also cant practice at home because the detector does not run stably. The only way at present to get some understanding of the detector is to watch a few videos and read the forums about peoples experiences with it, the current manual I find is a little to simplistic especially without the ability to practice.
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« Reply #18 on: Thursday June 7 2018 14:44:21 AEST PM »

  
Just adding in my 2c worth here... The QED as egixe4 put it is not a detector for the lazy prospector and I agree, however it is at a price point where people who are only part time prospectors like my self will buy it because it offers good value for money. Or people are buying it because they just want to start out in detecting and its good value for money. It's possible that these two factors are leading to confusion as people purchasing it either believe it's easy to use and/or don't have enough time to understand the detector. Of couce this is a simplistic overview.

I like to understand how and why something work the way it does, a real in depth manual or videos about how the QED works, what is a null point and why it has it, how does THS-B and THS-A work, modes etc would be hugely beneficial and would probably clear up a lot of the confusion. I would love to get out more and practice but I don't have that luxury at this point in time. I also cant practice at home because the detector does not run stably. The only way at present to get some understanding of the detector is to watch a few videos and read the forums about peoples experiences with it, the current manual I find is a little to simplistic especially without the ability to practice.

Short videos showing all the button functions will be available soon, please be patient.
Meanwhile, reload factory default settings and try swinging targets pass the coil with different combinations of #2 & #3. leave #4 gain low for this exercise. Use a $2 coin and a 5 cent piece as the targets.
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« Reply #19 on: Thursday June 7 2018 15:25:42 AEST PM »

I think that if the ground balancing procedure was sorted out where
The user doesn't spend too much time on this every time the ground changes,  then it will make a world of difference to the QED.
A lot of QED users get frustrated with this issue more than anything.
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