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Some software and hardware updates now available for the QED.More  QED firmware updates (inc Auto GB  option) just announced here. New  QED hardware updates/options and pictures will be posted  first here  as they become available.

Another satisfied QED user! QED user report for 9 days detecting! User loves it, found it easy to use,found gold with it and he prefers it to his 5000! Also a report on a QED used at the beach for coin shooting.QED users reporting in with their multi ounce gold finds with the QED!
From  another QED user today:"Been out and about today testing and comparing against other machines etc in ground that has been horrible in the past.Bround balancing Ive found very simple and easy.'m using the Nokia booster but need a little more sound/threshold.Otherwise no complaints from me, very impressed."
and :"My QED with the 8” commander on it, out performed my SDC Got bits that don't register on my scales SDC has since been sold"
"My QED is terrific. Lightweight, very sensitive and screams at me when it hits any target. The Detect shaft and the 11" ultra sensing coil is a top quality fitout. I attached an external speaker which added under 200gms of weight in total and still remains very well balanced so i never feel fatigued after many hours of swinging."

Stinky  Pete :http://www.detech-metaldetectorsaustralia.com.au/ is the  Australian distributor for the QED.
This is the only forum where you can talk directly with the designer/ manufacturer of the QED and  also some very experienced QED users.
Jrbeatty and Reg Wilson  and  Yellowfin  (or Doug here for that matter!)have NO vested  or pecuniary interests(or secret deals or cash for comment or any other undisclosed benefits )in the QED other than using it to find gold which it is doing very successfully! The ONLY people deriving  an income from the QED(other than finding good gold) are the approved retailer and Bugwhiskers! The ONLY investor in the QED is Bugwhiskers!
I have never met Jrbeatty or Reg Wilson at Howards house or ANY other location!

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« Reply #200 on: Sunday December 18 2016 15:56:45 AEDT PM »

  
I have been following this recent progress with great interest.
I have noted you test results with smaller coil and on face value appear impressive but l would like to ask how did the relarger coils perform eg: the 15 inch or new 19 inch as these are the coils l would be utilising.

When inground testing against other brands of detectors was there any gold that the other detectors located that the QED couldn't hear and vice versa. What were the deepest bits and on what size does the QED perform best on.

I don't think much testing has been done with the largest mono's. As for your other question I suggest you talk to Dean at Goldsearch.
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« Reply #201 on: Sunday December 18 2016 17:29:10 AEDT PM »

It works excellent with large coils is 800 mm x 600 mm big enough.

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« Reply #202 on: Sunday December 18 2016 18:09:16 AEDT PM »

Thanks for your reply.

Is there any chance that Dean from Gold Search could answer questions directly on this forum that way we all could get his responses first hand without them being twisted around by third and fourth hand accounts from people who don't comprehend what he told them.

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« Reply #203 on: Sunday December 18 2016 18:21:24 AEDT PM »

  
It works excellent with large coils is 800 mm x 600 mm big enough.

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IBGold when did you use the QED l didn't think it was released yet. Or were you involved in the developement. Could you qualify your answer with some actual facts so we can make an informed decision based on actual facts and experience for example what did you find what depth ect. One liner coments really say nothing but leave an out for denial later. All l said it works excellent with large coils l didn't say it finds gold or it has found gold but l didn't say it found deep gold. Can you understand how one liners can be somewhat misinterpreted in order to refute later claims or disputes. This will be a significant outlay for me and that is why l am looking for actual facts that can't be disputed by those with an agenda.
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« Reply #204 on: Sunday December 18 2016 20:00:32 AEDT PM »

  
  
It works excellent with large coils is 800 mm x 600 mm big enough.

Regards, Ian. happy face

IBGold when did you use the QED l didn't think it was released yet. Or were you involved in the developement. Could you qualify your answer with some actual facts so we can make an informed decision based on actual facts and experience for example what did you find what depth ect. One liner coments really say nothing but leave an out for denial later. All l said it works excellent with large coils l didn't say it finds gold or it has found gold but l didn't say it found deep gold. Can you understand how one liners can be somewhat misinterpreted in order to refute later claims or disputes. This will be a significant outlay for me and that is why l am looking for actual facts that can't be disputed by those with an agenda.

Here is a video of a very early(2011) prototype QED being depth tested on a large nugget at a test site. I have no doubt that the 2016 commercial version is as a good for depth and has better depth/sensitivity to small gold than the early versions and much better EMI rejection (ie better S/N) and better target response.I am personally not aware of any large/deep gold specimens/ nuggets that the commercial version has yet found but i can see no reason as to why it won't detect larger, deeper nuggets/specimens and does not suffer the huge depth losses (up to and over 30%) than can occur with a GPX on some nuggets with longer Tc's when run in any of the smooth timings.
  
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« Reply #205 on: Sunday December 18 2016 20:25:58 AEDT PM »

I'm not up to scratch with the Tecnical Jargon but from what l could understand is that the soon to be released detector in it's current state is unproven/untested on deep gold. In relation to the early Prototype how can you compare both detectors as being similiar.  Wasn't the earlier prototype required to be redesigned and therefore the new version would therefore be entirely different in its response and capabilities compared to the older one. L have seen posted elsewhere that there can be a huge difference between prototypes and actual released versions so they recomend not to go on prototype test result to form an opinion as whether to buy or not. Look at all the hype around the minelab coil apparently underperforming by some accounts.
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« Reply #206 on: Sunday December 18 2016 20:27:36 AEDT PM »

  
However it works extremely well with mono coils of all sizes and as QED seems to handle mineralized ground very and so far is far less susceptible to EMI than other Pi detectors with mono coils i see no reason why anyone would want to use a DD coil.
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Mono coils are even better and more affordable to build  and experiment for some DIY  QED owners.

Maybe after solving very deep target discrimination DD will become actual again.

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« Reply #207 on: Sunday December 18 2016 23:20:54 AEDT PM »

  
I'm not up to scratch with the Tecnical Jargon but from what l could understand is that the soon to be released detector in it's current state is unproven/untested on deep gold. In relation to the early Prototype how can you compare both detectors as being similiar.  Wasn't the earlier prototype required to be redesigned and therefore the new version would therefore be entirely different in its response and capabilities compared to the older one. L have seen posted elsewhere that there can be a huge difference between prototypes and actual released versions so they recomend not to go on prototype test result to form an opinion as whether to buy or not. Look at all the hype around the minelab coil apparently underperforming by some accounts.

How do we prove to your satisfaction that the QED in its current state will detect deep gold? From testing that has been done with  targets with a variety of Tc  (see the table in an earlier post in this thread-Reply #64 on: Wednesday December 7 2016 06:31:07 AEDT AM ) that the detection depths and sensitivity is comparable to or better than earlier prototypes because it can sample earlier and has a better S/N.
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« Reply #208 on: Monday December 19 2016 06:45:41 AEDT AM »

I can understand the suspicion of potential buyers after years of "unsubstantiated improvement claims" in the industry. There are videos and air tests. If they aren't satisfactory then I suggest waiting for reports from customers or accounts from people who know the technology and have witnessed the QED in action.
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« Reply #209 on: Monday December 19 2016 08:10:50 AEDT AM »

I see that the website still says AVAILABLE SOON any idea of the time frame ?
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« Reply #210 on: Monday December 19 2016 10:51:27 AEDT AM »

There are a limited number available for those who are capable of  or wanting to add their own battery.
The parts to make the AUX BOX should arrive tomorrow but I doubt I will be able to make them before Christmas.
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« Reply #211 on: Wednesday December 21 2016 13:37:06 AEDT PM »

The 18650 Li Ion battery holders turned up and fit very snugly in the box.
The next step is to make a PCB that connects them and the "charge balance" switch, fuse etc then test.
If you can source genuine 3000mAH batteries the 6 cells should last for around 20 hours between charges.

PS The 3600mAH written on the batteries pictured is a "fairytale"


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« Reply #212 on: Wednesday December 21 2016 14:57:30 AEDT PM »

  
The 18650 Li Ion battery holders turned up and fit very snugly in the box.
The next step is to make a PCB that connects them and the "charge balance" switch, fuse etc then test.
If you can source genuine 3000mAH batteries the 6 cells should last for around 20 hours between charges.

PS The 3600mAH written on the batteries pictured is a "fairytale"


BEAUTIFUL!!   They Look Good

I would take the risk with the light-weight Li-ion Batteries sold as a separate pack, at buyers risk. The 20 hrs use-time gives 2 long, safe days of detetcting between charges... any prospector would be happy with that. Separate from the electronics they can be disconnected in a mishap.

Well done Bugs!

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« Reply #213 on: Wednesday December 21 2016 15:57:43 AEDT PM »

Those are very good batteries you have there , I bought a cree LED ultra fire torch of ebay 5 years ago for $19.00 and it is by far the best torch I have ever owned and the batteries that came with it , which are the same as you have in the photo are still going strong .
Have faith in those batteries they are fantastic .
 
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« Reply #214 on: Wednesday December 21 2016 23:09:24 AEDT PM »

The problem, Kiwigold, is that it is a gamble that anyone looking to buy ones like yours is going to get proper batteries. The reason being so many fakes with similar packaging and branding abound, and " look" like yours.......

In fact, I think if you were to google the torch forums, you will find that the consensus is probably to avoid any battery with the word "fire" in it. Not worth wasting the time.


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« Reply #215 on: Thursday December 22 2016 07:41:54 AEDT AM »

I wasn't aware of that must have got lucky with my lot .
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« Reply #216 on: Thursday December 22 2016 08:00:06 AEDT AM »

Fake 18650 China batteries Slideshow
they are putting small cells in new cases and filling the gap with flour or plastic, total rip off, 3 of my 5 purchases on ebay have been fakes

  
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« Reply #217 on: Thursday December 22 2016 08:19:25 AEDT AM »

hi all , ive heard the same maybe try this
  
or jaycar
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« Reply #218 on: Thursday December 22 2016 08:47:11 AEDT AM »

Why not try the company Bugs linked to, further back in this thread. I know they make up packs, but maybe they also sell individual cells. Then at least you can be sure of reliable running. It would be odd to hobble detector run time.
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« Reply #219 on: Thursday December 22 2016 09:11:30 AEDT AM »

  

  
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