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Some software and hardware updates now available for the QED.More  QED firmware updates (inc Auto GB  option) just announced here. New  QED hardware updates/options and pictures will be posted  first here  as they become available.

Another satisfied QED user! QED user report for 9 days detecting! User loves it, found it easy to use,found gold with it and he prefers it to his 5000! Also a report on a QED used at the beach for coin shooting.QED users reporting in with their multi ounce gold finds with the QED!
From  another QED user today:"Been out and about today testing and comparing against other machines etc in ground that has been horrible in the past.Bround balancing Ive found very simple and easy.'m using the Nokia booster but need a little more sound/threshold.Otherwise no complaints from me, very impressed."
and :"My QED with the 8” commander on it, out performed my SDC Got bits that don't register on my scales SDC has since been sold"
"My QED is terrific. Lightweight, very sensitive and screams at me when it hits any target. The Detect shaft and the 11" ultra sensing coil is a top quality fitout. I attached an external speaker which added under 200gms of weight in total and still remains very well balanced so i never feel fatigued after many hours of swinging."

Stinky  Pete :http://www.detech-metaldetectorsaustralia.com.au/ is the  Australian distributor for the QED.
This is the only forum where you can talk directly with the designer/ manufacturer of the QED and  also some very experienced QED users.
Jrbeatty and Reg Wilson  and  Yellowfin  (or Doug here for that matter!)have NO vested  or pecuniary interests(or secret deals or cash for comment or any other undisclosed benefits )in the QED other than using it to find gold which it is doing very successfully! The ONLY people deriving  an income from the QED(other than finding good gold) are the approved retailer and Bugwhiskers! The ONLY investor in the QED is Bugwhiskers!
I have never met Jrbeatty or Reg Wilson at Howards house or ANY other location!

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« Reply #360 on: Tuesday January 24 2017 16:47:59 AEDT PM »

  
Yep saw the 5.5 oz detected at 28" ... not bad eh? Furthermore.....
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interestingly Reg says that the SAD 7000 with the 19" coil could not hear this target at all! zilch , nothing!!!  shocking So on this test the QED defeats the SAD7000!
The QED can also detect some small gold and specimens that the SDC cannot!
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« Reply #361 on: Tuesday January 24 2017 16:50:44 AEDT PM »

  
  
  
  
BW do think the QED current drain with an 18" mono will be similar to a smaller coil?
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They will be very similar. Most aftermarket coils are 300uH and 0.4 ohms. What is not common is the speed of the coil ie it's resonant frequency and it can vary considerably. Tuning the detector to match the coil is what MODE (QED menu item #5) does.

How do you know when you have the mode optimal for the coil you are using or conversely when the mode is not optimal for the particular coil you are using?
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When a very small target has the best detection distance, this is the correct mode number for that coil.

So you should carry a small  "std" target with you and test it over the ground with the various  modes to determine which mode is the best with the coil you are using?
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« Reply #362 on: Tuesday January 24 2017 17:32:18 AEDT PM »

  
  

Yep saw the 5.5 oz detected at 28" ... not bad eh?



interestingly Reg says that the SAD 7000 with the 19" coil could not hear this target at all! zilch , nothing!!!

So on this test the QED defeats the SAD7000!  The QED can also detect some small gold and specimens that the SDC cannot!
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Hmmm... musing over test facts & realities, not imaginings, this means 0" for the 7000, and 28" for the QED. (Inches = points in Bugs' cumulative comparison.)

Now, even assuming / believing the 19" is "~30% better than the 14" coil" (unproven, untested by Reg).
That is the same as saying the 14" is ~30% worse than the 19"!!
30% worse than 0" is still 0  (or less?). Lets be generous & say its the same as the 19".

Taking small liberties (just as marketeers do):  On the Bugs' scoring system, if we include the 5.5 oz (slug) of buried lead into the target mix & compare results to a 7000 (14") only. The QED scores an extra 28 points.

The QED "Marketing Team" (wink) assures me that this IS rational & this scoring results in:

     QED (with 12" coil) scores 248+28 = 276 points
     7000 (with std 14") = 232+0= 232 points

So, the difference Doug becomes even more convincing!! SAD isnt it?

But the "QED marketing team", feeling quite restrained, will not make % claims of this difference, even if this alarming finding is from an independant tester. Keep it "in house" a source of growing amusement.

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« Reply #363 on: Tuesday January 24 2017 17:46:52 AEDT PM »

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“I hope the new ML will be a lightweight PI, we`ve been screaming for a SDC in a better format since it came out.”
  
Seems to me that the QED satisfies this requirement perfectly!
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« Reply #364 on: Tuesday January 24 2017 17:56:09 AEDT PM »

  

Norvic
“I hope the new ML will be a lightweight PI, we`ve been screaming for a SDC in a better format since it came out.”
  
Seems to me that the QED satisfies this requirement perfectly!
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I have heard of BRAND LOYALTY ... but a BLIND LOYALTY is for lemmings.

The QED is (a high performance, lightweight, easy-to-use) PI detector that's affordable & Made in Australia. AND that does not address HOW WELL it performs on small & large metal targets in various conditions, which Reg & others are still testing...(oops correction, he's finished testing & is now using the QED to find gold. Good luck mate, we know you won't need it!)  

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PS: Have a look at what James R Beatty has done with his QED .... complete with battery, headphone transmitter & coil it ALL weighs less than 2 kg!!

link-http://golddetecting.4umer.net/t24672p150-the-qed-and-me
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« Reply #365 on: Tuesday January 24 2017 20:36:15 AEDT PM »

The first of the QED instructional videos has been uploaded.
More to follow.

  
Link-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipFIWxD-wSI&feature=youtu.be
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« Reply #366 on: Tuesday January 24 2017 20:51:51 AEDT PM »

Geez,looks easy enough! I still have nearly 3 weeks before I can order mine....hope you have enough "stuff" bugs! And you kept one in the "esky" for me! Congrats mate, looks like you,be made it!
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« Reply #367 on: Tuesday January 24 2017 21:25:00 AEDT PM »

Reg Wilson :re the QED
"What we see here is the future of gold detecting. Super light. Super functional. Super usable." Clap Hands whohoo terrific
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« Reply #368 on: Tuesday January 24 2017 21:47:02 AEDT PM »

Woohoo! Just got the OK from my boss(beautiful wife) to order one, so I have.....please get the soldering iron out Bugs, your little PL series is about to get muddy in the NT!
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« Reply #369 on: Tuesday January 24 2017 21:59:59 AEDT PM »

Next in the series - Mode adjustment

  
Link-https://youtu.be/PEoJ6aD5HhI
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« Reply #370 on: Tuesday January 24 2017 22:33:10 AEDT PM »

Still a lot to learn about this little battler but the voltage check was a nice touch to help maintain working settings instead of losing them when the batteries go flat. Does the QED sound off with an alarm before it reaches that point just in case you are concentrating more on detecting than watching the gauges ?
Groundrush wanted to know if the instructional video's will be posted to the Goldsearch Australia website ?
Question from me... can external speaker/booster combo's be employed for those (not me) that may suffer from industrial deafness ?

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« Reply #371 on: Tuesday January 24 2017 23:03:40 AEDT PM »

  
Groundrush wanted to know if the instructional video's will be posted to the Goldsearch Australia website ?
TIA- Dusty  smile  

I don't know its up to Dean at Goldsearch, I have made the video links visible to guests but they are not  "live". To view they must be copied and pasted( the url  portion after Link- )into the browsers search bar.
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« Reply #372 on: Tuesday January 24 2017 23:46:45 AEDT PM »

....I hope the Aussie inventor does well (as) the price is attractive,

He will,  even if all he may want initially is to get his money back for his materials, then for his R&D effort.

....moreseo it lives up to the hype created to the prospectors out there that will have a punt on the machine without no gold finds to back up.

HYPE??  What HYPE? …  facts have always been provided here, sometimes in a humourous or interesting way.  smile
The QED goal has been met & demonstrated. More proof is coming, mostly independent.
And, its a small "punt" at just $1800 complete  smile

Yet, isnt it amazing that a just-released METAL detector, called the QED, is expected to find GOLD* (in preference to other metals), even during testing? And QED users are obliged to show it off like a salesman we know does. Its treated with suspicion, as if it can’t find gold! It HAS found gold, which proves it CAN, as if proof was a necessary qualification. Maybe prospectors are just a simple superstitious lot. Or maybe the deniers are shareholders who feel sorry for their investment.

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*PS: Here is an old video of a QED in Alluvium's hands finding gold 6 yrs ago with an early version of QED.
Its been much improved since then.

  

It found gold then, it will find gold now.
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« Reply #373 on: Wednesday January 25 2017 00:00:09 AEDT AM »

  
Reg Wilson :re the QED
"What we see here is the future of gold detecting. Super light. Super functional. Super usable." Clap Hands whohoo terrific
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I second Reg's statement, and as the proud owner of production QED Serial Number 001, I'm qualified to do so.
Very Well done Bug's and thank you.
I would also like to thank Dean from Goldsearch

 whohoo terrific thanks

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« Reply #374 on: Wednesday January 25 2017 06:11:28 AEDT AM »

  
Still a lot to learn about this little battler but the voltage check was a nice touch to help maintain working settings instead of losing them when the batteries go flat. Does the QED sound off with an alarm before it reaches that point just in case you are concentrating more on detecting than watching the gauges ?
Groundrush wanted to know if the instructional video's will be posted to the Goldsearch Australia website ?
Question from me... can external speaker/booster combo's be employed for those (not me) that may suffer from industrial deafness ?

TIA- Dusty  smile 

The display will show a decimal point dot when batteries are very low.
The NOIKIA MD11 works well as an external speaker, on ebay for around $20 and a bracket is available to mount it to the battery box.
Re the videos, Dean can post links on his website.
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« Reply #375 on: Wednesday January 25 2017 08:43:00 AEDT AM »

 great videos b/w , just a couple of questions
1 .looking at the mode video it seems to me that the bias is a type of floating timings ,
user can kind of adjust the timing to suit the type of gold in that area
2 . can you run the qed with the ground bal mode on screen open or do you have to set and pull out of that and go back to menu to detect
nice job b/w
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« Reply #376 on: Wednesday January 25 2017 15:24:43 AEDT PM »

  

Reg Wilson :re the QED

"What we see here is the future of gold detecting. Super light. Super functional. Super usable."

doug


Indeed!!

Where is BILLY? when there is so much good news about the QED about?  

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PS: I posted a video (above) of an early QED finding gold in hands of prospector (Alluvium) way back in 2011.
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« Reply #377 on: Wednesday January 25 2017 15:32:00 AEDT PM »

  
Where is BILLY? when there is so much good news about the QED about?  

Still trying to wipe all the egg off his face like a lot of others!
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« Reply #378 on: Wednesday January 25 2017 16:36:44 AEDT PM »

  
great videos b/w , just a couple of questions
1 .looking at the mode video it seems to me that the bias is a type of floating timings ,
user can kind of adjust the timing to suit the type of gold in that area
2 . can you run the qed with the ground bal mode on screen open or do you have to set and pull out of that and go back to menu to detect
nice job b/w
cheers red


No floating timings. The MODE function increases the sample delay in 0.4uS increments.
You can leave the screen on the GB adjustment and adjust it as required.
The bottom button serves both as the off switch if pressed and held and it also toggles between showing the menu variable number (1-8)  and the actual adjustment variable. Battery voltage is obviously not adjustable.
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« Reply #379 on: Wednesday January 25 2017 16:46:58 AEDT PM »

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“They have the prototypes where they can fiddle with the machine.”
  
Apart from the USB port the prototype QED's have exactly the same circuit and firmware as the production QED's! You can do exactly the same “fiddling” with the menu options on the prototypes as the you can on the production QED's.Jen 58 info is simply wrong!
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