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Some software and hardware updates now available for the QED.More  QED firmware updates (inc Auto GB  option) just announced here. New  QED hardware updates/options and pictures will be posted  first here  as they become available.

Another satisfied QED user! QED user report for 9 days detecting! User loves it, found it easy to use,found gold with it and he prefers it to his 5000! Also a report on a QED used at the beach for coin shooting.QED users reporting in with their multi ounce gold finds with the QED!
From  another QED user today:"Been out and about today testing and comparing against other machines etc in ground that has been horrible in the past.Bround balancing Ive found very simple and easy.'m using the Nokia booster but need a little more sound/threshold.Otherwise no complaints from me, very impressed."
and :"My QED with the 8” commander on it, out performed my SDC Got bits that don't register on my scales SDC has since been sold"
"My QED is terrific. Lightweight, very sensitive and screams at me when it hits any target. The Detect shaft and the 11" ultra sensing coil is a top quality fitout. I attached an external speaker which added under 200gms of weight in total and still remains very well balanced so i never feel fatigued after many hours of swinging."

Stinky  Pete :http://www.detech-metaldetectorsaustralia.com.au/ is the  Australian distributor for the QED.
This is the only forum where you can talk directly with the designer/ manufacturer of the QED and  also some very experienced QED users.
Jrbeatty and Reg Wilson  and  Yellowfin  (or Doug here for that matter!)have NO vested  or pecuniary interests(or secret deals or cash for comment or any other undisclosed benefits )in the QED other than using it to find gold which it is doing very successfully! The ONLY people deriving  an income from the QED(other than finding good gold) are the approved retailer and Bugwhiskers! The ONLY investor in the QED is Bugwhiskers!
I have never met Jrbeatty or Reg Wilson at Howards house or ANY other location!

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« Reply #280 on: Tuesday January 10 2017 09:25:33 AEDT AM »

I saw  the production  QED for the first time yesterday (after Reg had left) .It was only used in BW backyard which is FULL of buried junk! One thing that did stand out is how the target response on  some small  gold was largely unaffected by sweep speed from very slow to extremely fast.In fact  to me it seemed the target response was better at very fast sweep speeds.So for those  patch hunting it should give a lot more ground coverage in a days detecting than  ML detectors.
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« Reply #281 on: Tuesday January 10 2017 13:26:11 AEDT PM »

Another advantage of the QED is its very simple circuit which BW knows like the back of his hand. Should a fault  occur in a QED then by the nature of the fault BW will know exactly what it is caused by and thus will be able to quickly rectify it.
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« Reply #282 on: Tuesday January 10 2017 13:33:10 AEDT PM »

 The delay of the QED availability is due to the  battery box circuit boards which BW ordered and had made. When delivered they were not as he specified.As a result he has to very carefully cut  each of them in half and then cut out each corner(so that they will fit in the battery box) which takes time and must be done with great care.
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« Reply #283 on: Tuesday January 10 2017 19:17:33 AEDT PM »

Back on topic.
The QED battery box. 2 layers of 6 cells providing 9-10 hours of detection time.
ALDI cells shown costing just $18 for the full set of 12.
The pink string makes it easier to lift the pack out when changing batteries.
It's a snug fit so there is no rattling or wire/joint fatigueing when swinging.


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« Reply #284 on: Tuesday January 10 2017 21:36:15 AEDT PM »

So batteries and chargers not included then?
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« Reply #285 on: Wednesday January 11 2017 06:45:09 AEDT AM »

  
So batteries and chargers not included then?

A battery set and 12 cell charger are included in the $1800 price.
If people want extras they are readily available and very affordable.
 
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« Reply #286 on: Wednesday January 11 2017 08:51:53 AEDT AM »

thats awesome Bugs!
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« Reply #287 on: Wednesday January 11 2017 09:59:55 AEDT AM »

 I see that Lachlan on finders says  that the QED lacks a salt timing  for conductive ground and raises this as  a criticism.Well  just look at the problems that conductive ground causes the  SAD 7000 a detector costing over 5x the QED price and  whose 19" coil costs more than than the QED!
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« Reply #288 on: Wednesday January 11 2017 11:05:50 AEDT AM »

 The QED does not auto tracking.Auto tracking has upsides and downsides.The downside is that with mono coils on the gp/gpx its possible to track  out some fainter target signals (won't happen with a DD coil) if the coil is repeatedly swept over the target.With the QED I don't think this can ever happen regardless of swing speed or how often the coil is swept across the target.
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« Reply #289 on: Wednesday January 11 2017 11:24:36 AEDT AM »

Gb digital readout
The QED GB gives a digital readout for the ground,As i understand it the higher the reading the more mineralized the ground. From memory a typical readout for Vic ground is around 130 .Beggary Hill from Wedderburn gives about 138 but some ground from Teetulpa  in SA gives a readout of 148!!! When you drop a magnet into this soil  the magnet picks up nearly ALL the ground.Its just like dropping a magnet into iron filings! I was amazed when BW showed me this.The QED  is able to GB over this soil  as reported by a tester in an earlier post.
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"I have had it (QED) on ground that is around 70% iron content which was near impossible to ground balance with other detectors but was no problem with the QED"
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« Reply #290 on: Wednesday January 11 2017 12:31:29 AEDT PM »

  

When you drop a magnet into this soil  the magnet picks up nearly ALL the ground.Its just like dropping a magnet into iron filings! I was amazed when BW showed me this.The QED  is able to GB over this soil  as reported by a tester in an earlier post. IBgold


"I have had it (QED) on ground that is around 70% iron content which was near impossible to ground balance with other detectors but was no problem with the QED"


Where I detect if I place and move my magnet on the ground the magnet has a roundish ball of ground stuck to it so has that something to do with the VRM of the ground.

I wonder if the settings IBGold used to GB on that ground were the factory pre-set settings that BW sets in the QED?

Also was he using one of the new Flat wound monos or some other mono coil at the time?

Hopefully IBGold can answer.


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« Reply #291 on: Wednesday January 11 2017 14:01:09 AEDT PM »

 Bugs why  have you decided to use a battery pack where the individual cells have to be charged rather than being able to charge the battery pack as a whole unit?
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« Reply #292 on: Wednesday January 11 2017 14:03:36 AEDT PM »

Bugs, below is a question Dustyminer has raised about QED batteries on Finders.
Says ... I should be asking him myself but haven't recovered my password over there yet since I got my new laptop.

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.... I would be using the best available for performance and longevity... that's a given. However the recharging is problematic. Every time you were to withdraw the batteries for recharging is going to induce stress on the wiring regardless of how careful you are and each time you do it you are exposing the internals to possible corruption from dust, etc.

I think my preference would be to either ask Bugs or a competent electronics technician to add a usb port in the casing to recharge the batteries in a bank in situ. We do this with mobile phones so I could not see it being a huge deal and then that also allows to carry a small power bank for charges on the go if required.

Kinda surprised it has not been set up like that already so will be interested in any feedback if anyone is talking to Bugs..
 Dustyminer on Finders

Seems it would cause further delays & complications at this stage of production

(I see Doug has posted the question another way.)

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« Reply #293 on: Wednesday January 11 2017 14:59:35 AEDT PM »

It is possible to charge the whole box without removing batteries but it's not recommended to always do this. Each third or fourth change should be a "balanced" charge ie each cell individually. This maximises battery life and gives best performance.
The user would require a car charger with the correct socket for the battery box. Something I will look at soon.
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« Reply #294 on: Wednesday January 11 2017 23:19:24 AEDT PM »

 Great news Howard congratulations, will have to come up and check it out. good luck
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« Reply #295 on: Thursday January 12 2017 13:24:45 AEDT PM »

Reg wilsons latest report.QED finds a tiny "nugget".
  
link-http://golddetecting.4umer.net/t24672-the-qed-and-me
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« Reply #296 on: Thursday January 12 2017 13:56:17 AEDT PM »

  
Reg wilsons latest report.QED finds a tiny "nugget".
  
link-http://golddetecting.4umer.net/t24672-the-qed-and-me
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and more on Finders ... extract of key points below

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...I dug a small colour at about three inches that was a very sweet and definite signal. It would be lucky to be .3 of a gram.  I changed coils ... and found it excellent, .....
The next step is to go into deeper ground with a larger coil, as the QED has proved itself on small gold as far as I'm concerned.


Sounds like a tick for small stuff. The search & reporting continues...
Finding gold is always nice but its IS a metal detector, so no surprise.

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link:-http://www.finders.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9362&start=420
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« Reply #297 on: Thursday January 12 2017 16:08:54 AEDT PM »

  
  

When you drop a magnet into this soil  the magnet picks up nearly ALL the ground.Its just like dropping a magnet into iron filings! I was amazed when BW showed me this.The QED  is able to GB over this soil  as reported by a tester in an earlier post. IBgold


"I have had it (QED) on ground that is around 70% iron content which was near impossible to ground balance with other detectors but was no problem with the QED"



Where I detect if I place and move my magnet on the ground the magnet has a roundish ball of ground stuck to it so has that something to do with the VRM of the ground.

I wonder if the settings IBGold used to GB on that ground were the factory pre-set settings that BW sets in the QED?

Also was he using one of the new Flat wound monos or some other mono coil at the time?

Hopefully IBGold can answer.





To answer your questions  you have to remember that testing session was about three or 4 software versions ago but from my notes the G/B was on 149 and the maximum I have had to use and to this stage all my testing has been with my 3 to 1 mono coils or standard mono's but now I own two EVO coils a 12" and a 14" x 9" I will test with these next time out when it stops raining here and the temperature cools down .

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« Reply #298 on: Thursday January 12 2017 17:26:14 AEDT PM »

  
To answer your questions  you have to remember that testing session was about three or 4 software versions ago but from my notes the G/B was on 149 and the maximum I have had to use and to this stage all my testing has been with my 3 to 1 mono coils or standard mono's but now I own two EVO coils a 12" and a 14" x 9" I will test with these next time out when it stops raining here and the temperature cools down .

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Thanks Ian for your reply.

Look forward to how both Evo coils can handle your HOT ground compared to your other coils.

It would be good if all BW has to do to update your QED to the latest version is plug into a port and perform a software update ?
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« Reply #299 on: Thursday January 12 2017 18:39:04 AEDT PM »

  
  
To answer your questions  you have to remember that testing session was about three or 4 software versions ago but from my notes the G/B was on 149 and the maximum I have had to use and to this stage all my testing has been with my 3 to 1 mono coils or standard mono's but now I own two EVO coils a 12" and a 14" x 9" I will test with these next time out when it stops raining here and the temperature cools down .

Regards, Ian. happy face

Thanks Ian for your reply.

Look forward to how both Evo coils can handle your HOT ground compared to your other coils.

It would be good if all BW has to do to update your QED to the latest version is plug into a port and perform a software update ?

The QED is re-programmable but not by the customer.
An earlier board revision of August 2015 had a socket on the back for reprogramming but the latest board (November 2016) doesn't.
These early boards are with testers located in every state except Tasmania.
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