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« on: Monday August 29 2016 16:51:52 AEST PM »

TDI and QED board size comparison.
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« Reply #1 on: Monday August 29 2016 17:34:07 AEST PM »

I have a similar pic showing the difference between the QED board and the F1A4 boards.
Last time a pic of a ML board was posted ML chucked a wobbly..... I would have thought they'd be proud of it.
The QED is about a quarter or less of the area of the F1A4 boards.
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« Reply #2 on: Monday August 29 2016 17:43:01 AEST PM »

The ML annual report to the shareholders stated that they were planning on developing a low cost entry level gold detector.
They could buy the ultra low cost, ultra high reliability/performance QED design from me for a very reasonable price but will they?
Remember, the shareholders were told that the development cost of the GPZ 7000 was $10 million !!!
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« Reply #3 on: Monday August 29 2016 19:10:39 AEST PM »

  
The ML annual report to the shareholders stated that they were planning on developing a low cost entry level gold detector.
They could buy the ultra low cost, ultra high reliability/performance QED design from me for a very reasonable price but will they?
Remember, the shareholders were told that the development cost of the GPZ 7000 was $10 million !!!


They could indeed, but I don't think you would be that high on their Christmas card list
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« Reply #4 on: Monday August 29 2016 19:18:14 AEST PM »

I don't think the shareholders would worry too much about their money being spent on a card and a postage stamp.
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« Reply #5 on: Monday August 29 2016 20:22:02 AEST PM »

Great work, that's a nicely populated board. Will the QED also accept DD coils?

Happy hunting.
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« Reply #6 on: Monday August 29 2016 20:50:30 AEST PM »

Yes but not necessary anymore even over hot ground.
The new QED GB copes very well with large MONO's on hot ground.
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« Reply #7 on: Monday August 29 2016 22:03:16 AEST PM »

  
Remember, the shareholders were told that the development cost of the GPZ 7000 was $10 million !!!

And they still have not got it right!!!!
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« Reply #8 on: Monday August 29 2016 23:00:17 AEST PM »

  
I don't think the shareholders would worry too much about their money being spent on a card and a postage stamp.

So your ML Christmas Card arrives
Would you sell out?
Very nice board Bugwhiskers, great work. 
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday August 30 2016 01:47:56 AEST AM »

Looks really nice.  thumbs up!
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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday August 30 2016 10:31:06 AEST AM »

I am seeking an owner of a good GPZ 7000 who knows how to drive it for comparative performance testing.
Ideally the owner will be in the Ballarat area.
If interested, please PM me. Their identity will remain confidential.
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday August 30 2016 14:53:43 AEST PM »

  
Yes but not necessary anymore even over hot ground.
The new QED GB copes very well with large MONO's on hot ground.

Yes well done! The QED contains some totally unique circuity and IP and signal processing that is not in any other Pi detector. that contributes to its very high EMI immunity, low power consumption, sensitivity, early sampling and superior S/N!That's a  real achievement! whohoo Bravo Clap Hands The wait has been worthwhile!
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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday February 15 2017 22:57:57 AEDT PM »

  
  
Remember, the shareholders were told that the development cost of the GPZ 7000 was $10 million !!!

And they still have not got it right!!!!
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Three scenarios come to my mind

1. Bugs is offered a healthy licence/rights fee for the production of an entry level MD (rebadged as ML) version of his QED. However, not only exclusively for ML market but rebranded again and again in different brand smanufactured in sizable quantities in China which are comparable in price but not in quality but Bugs declines and perseveres with a modest size team sweating it out 14hrs per day and returning good profit margins but with challenges to meet supply globally.

2. Bugs takes advice from venture capital specialists/brokers and decides to forefeit 30% of QED  in return for upfront $1.5M-$3M cash injection to set up his own fully funtional production line including acute admin staff.

3. ML decide to rip-off Bugs IP and goes under handed and without consultation blatantly makes a pseudo-QED which get released before chrismas 2017 and forces Bugs into multiple courtroom situations to defend and protect his product/invention/IP's consequently displacing Bugs attention and focus away from his core business.

I suspect scenario 3 is already in construction! Why? Because ML must thwart any competition at ANY COST to protect their image and brand. Furthermore, ML will seek retribution to Bugs for the amount of litigation that Bugs thrusted upon ML in acheiving a stand alone status in the MD marketplace with his QED.

Am i nothing short of looney with my suggestions you might say?. However for a very long time i worked in strategic marketing with major corps and i have no doubt that it will NOT entirely be a personal attack towards Bugs but its just business and part of their strategy will be targeted at disrupting the QED's flow-motion (growth) and distracting the CEO (bugs) away from his core focus.

My suggestion to Bugs would be accept scenario 1.  because ML will still embark on scenario 3 and i would put my money on it that they already have a prototype and either way you have a battle ahead but you could be getting some royalties while you work on QED Versions 2,3,4 etc

By the way, in corporate strategy and risk assessment just about every Tom,Dick and Harry might aswell be called Bugs

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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday February 15 2017 23:41:23 AEDT PM »

  
  
  
Remember, the shareholders were told that the development cost of the GPZ 7000 was $10 million !!!

And they still have not got it right!!!!
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Three scenarios come to my mind

1. Bugs is offered a healthy licence/rights fee for the production of an entry level MD (rebadged as ML) version of his QED. However, not only exclusively for ML market but rebranded again and again in different brand smanufactured in sizable quantities in China which are comparable in price but not in quality but Bugs declines and perseveres with a modest size team sweating it out 14hrs per day and returning good profit margins but with challenges to meet supply globally.

2. Bugs takes advice from venture capital specialists/brokers and decides to forefeit 30% of QED  in return for upfront $1.5M-$3M cash injection to set up his own fully funtional production line including acute admin staff.

3. ML decide to rip-off Bugs IP and goes under handed and without consultation blatantly makes a pseudo-QED which get released before chrismas 2017 and forces Bugs into multiple courtroom situations to defend and protect his product/invention/IP's consequently displacing Bugs attention and focus away from his core business.

I suspect scenario 3 is already in construction! Why? Because ML must thwart any competition at ANY COST to protect their image and brand. Furthermore, ML will seek retribution to Bugs for the amount of litigation that Bugs thrusted upon ML in acheiving a stand alone status in the MD marketplace with his QED.

Am i nothing short of looney with my suggestions you might say?. However for a very long time i worked in strategic marketing with major corps and i have no doubt that it will NOT entirely be a personal attack towards Bugs but its just business and part of their strategy will be targeted at disrupting the QED's flow-motion (growth) and distracting the CEO (bugs) away from his core focus.

My suggestion to Bugs would be accept scenario 1.  because ML will still embark on scenario 3 and i would put my money on it that they already have a prototype and either way you have a battle ahead but you could be getting some royalties while you work on QED Versions 2,3,4 etc

By the way, in corporate strategy and risk assessment just about every Tom,Dick and Harry might aswell be called Bugs

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Their is NO WAY that BW will ever have anything to do with Codan/ML!!!!
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« Reply #14 on: Thursday February 16 2017 01:03:01 AEDT AM »

  
  
  
  
Remember, the shareholders were told that the development cost of the GPZ 7000 was $10 million !!!

And they still have not got it right!!!!
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Three scenarios come to my mind

1. Bugs is offered a healthy licence/rights fee for the production of an entry level MD (rebadged as ML) version of his QED. However, not only exclusively for ML market but rebranded again and again in different brand smanufactured in sizable quantities in China which are comparable in price but not in quality but Bugs declines and perseveres with a modest size team sweating it out 14hrs per day and returning good profit margins but with challenges to meet supply globally.

2. Bugs takes advice from venture capital specialists/brokers and decides to forefeit 30% of QED  in return for upfront $1.5M-$3M cash injection to set up his own fully funtional production line including acute admin staff.

3. ML decide to rip-off Bugs IP and goes under handed and without consultation blatantly makes a pseudo-QED which get released before chrismas 2017 and forces Bugs into multiple courtroom situations to defend and protect his product/invention/IP's consequently displacing Bugs attention and focus away from his core business.

I suspect scenario 3 is already in construction! Why? Because ML must thwart any competition at ANY COST to protect their image and brand. Furthermore, ML will seek retribution to Bugs for the amount of litigation that Bugs thrusted upon ML in acheiving a stand alone status in the MD marketplace with his QED.

Am i nothing short of looney with my suggestions you might say?. However for a very long time i worked in strategic marketing with major corps and i have no doubt that it will NOT entirely be a personal attack towards Bugs but its just business and part of their strategy will be targeted at disrupting the QED's flow-motion (growth) and distracting the CEO (bugs) away from his core focus.

My suggestion to Bugs would be accept scenario 1.  because ML will still embark on scenario 3 and i would put my money on it that they already have a prototype and either way you have a battle ahead but you could be getting some royalties while you work on QED Versions 2,3,4 etc

By the way, in corporate strategy and risk assessment just about every Tom,Dick and Harry might aswell be called Bugs

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Just as i thought and wrote about in scenario 1. Doug!

What i am observing ( between the lines) is that PRIDE may interfer with Bugs sensible financial and business choices in the near future as i have seen multiple times before but in different scenarios and im just simply sharing this obscure point of view (Free of charge) and you can do what you like with it.

My only agenda by writing this dribble is to sincerely declare my admiration for all concerned with the QED,to share with you freely what dreadful tatics a powerful competitor with deep pockets can do to disparrage, undermine and depreciate a small but no doubt well admired, talented, inventor/game changer like Bugs.   To add some credibility to my forementioned declaration, i have attempted to purchase the QED but was strangely refunded instead of being contacted by telephone to have it explained to me that i need to spend more to cover G.S.T. to which i would have happily obliged and no doubt i would have probably taken possession of my module by now However, ive put that couple grand back under the mattress for the time being while i watch the theatre roll on across the mediums with my attention also scrutinizing how the preditors will reel in the "BULL" (Bugs) back within the gate after it has bolted.

Unless QED & Co have deep pockets too i have absolutely no doubt the preditors will show no mercy when it comes to exterminating any formidable competitor(s) in order to maintain their own growth, marketshare and increased revenue in this sector.

Deviate corporate tatics become VERY Scary and intimidating to small companies   I.E.what Woolworths do/did to Butchers and Fruit/Veg with "LOSS LEADING"pricing to those independants within close proximity to their supermarkets 

Just angle that needs to canvassed (stay close to the enermy). And Bugs hopefully has great Accountants and Lawyers on speed dial because when QED starts to gain popularity in the USA mark my words a fight and an ugly one to will ensue.

Sorry to appear like a Doomsday prepper but i want to see QED turn the MD market on its head and prevail. SIMPLES!

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« Reply #15 on: Thursday February 16 2017 07:54:39 AEDT AM »

hi al
reminds me of microsoft v apple
in the early days
bring it on
ozzie bow to no one
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« Reply #16 on: Thursday February 16 2017 08:35:00 AEDT AM »

The attached pic of the SMD side of the PCB with a 5 cent piece for scale comparison.


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« Reply #17 on: Thursday February 16 2017 08:45:31 AEDT AM »

Hi Bugs
beauitful work Bugs ,but
hurry up and get that pick /pack machine ,before you get eye strain
cheers red
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« Reply #18 on: Thursday February 16 2017 08:48:00 AEDT AM »

Thanks for the PCB picture, very neat.
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