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« Reply #20 on: Wednesday March 2 2011 14:15:33 AEDT PM »

What should also be remembered is that everything that the pro ML anti anything else anti consumer detector choice QED skeptics have said  has never proven to be true! First they said it did not exist, which of course it clearly does!Then they said it had never found gold which is has (I was the first to achieve this) with the video being further proof. Then some claimed that the QED was a copy of ML's IP but as you would expect  they cannot produce a shred of technically credible evidence to support their wild assertions!
So why should anyone believe anything they say about the QED?
What is clear is they do not have the consumers best interests at heart ie competition, real innovation, simplicity, fairer pricing, transferable warranties and being upgradeable without being forced to buy the next model etc.
The behavior of these pro ML anti anything else advocates in my opinion is both anti competitive and a  selfish attempt by some to preserve their own financial position and status at the expense of the wider detecting community.
These  pro ML anti anything else people should be seen for what they are : their fellow prospectors worst enemies!
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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday March 2 2011 15:03:24 AEDT PM »

  

If the QED was not considered to be a credible threat to ML's  market dominance do you think we would still see the ferocious attacks on it?

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I believe the QED will be shown (publically, when the time is right) to be a credible competitor to "ML market dominance".

However, it depends what you mean by "threat" and "market dominance" Doug.  To be a threat it requires BIG sales.  Market dominance (to me) is measured in sales numbers & $ volume ($M). I don't believe Bugs can hope to achieve that in the short term (nor do I believe he wishes to). So the threat may be longer term. If Whites were to buy the rights to the QED that would another matter!  ::38::

But what is evident to me is (as you say), the QED's opponents (the denigrators) "do NOT have the consumers best interests at heart."  Detectorists interests ARE met by the QED which can provide competition (superior technical performance, user friendliness, upgradeability etc ALL at an unbeatable price) but even these attributes do not guarantee support by buyers & users to undermine ML market dominance.

The denigrators are also fanatically patriotic, doing what they can to maintain "ML brand loyalty" to wave the ML flag, chant JP slogans & by attack opponents (designers, supporters, IP & ideas and new & emerging products). Something they have always done! Thats why this forum exists, to correct that with alternative opinions, question & wave other flags.

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« Reply #22 on: Wednesday March 2 2011 19:45:28 AEDT PM »

Hi Huego,

You have really riled Robby_H with some of your posts, he even used the word fair instead of fare in one of his rants.

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Hugs, if you believe there's a connection between ML IP and the PI pioneer's patents before those of ML then spit it out in words we can all understand. Offer some real proof because Dug and Bugs have failed to show any connection whatsoever.

Can be answered by asking him why he refused earlier to answer the simple question of "which of the basic PI detector building blocks developed by the early pioneers do ML not use"?

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They claim no need to buy the next model because the QED is upgradeable. I've seen pictures of the latest board and it's obvious they will have to alter or change the board to make further improvements. This is incredibly obvious and they must know it!!!! They are having you on.

This "crock of" is not worthy of an answer.

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This whole debate hinges on whether or not Bugs et al had sufficient knowledge to have implemented MPS or arrived at his GB methods without knowing anything about Minelab's methods.

This is demolished by Poole's 1970's GB method that claimed 2 or more samples to cancel the ground. It doesn't matter if the energy in these samples are derived from a single TX length or multiple TX lengths. All "modern day" GB methods are derivations of this true pioneers work.

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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday March 2 2011 20:52:36 AEDT PM »

Thanks Bugs, you can and have answered the technical questions better than I.  ::38::

        Robby H is the guy who makes false claims and insinuations regarding patents & links to the QED and IP. (Huego)

This is supported in Robby's replies & inability to link the current QED IP (or patent) to any ML patent or IP.

His false claims include “the QED is just a “cheap digitized copy of ML's IP” (Robby_H)
His false claims are on Finders suggest that the IP in the QED (eg QED innovation patent) in some way breaches ML IP!

Neither Robby (nor ML) has shown these claims to be so, and time is running out!
When times up, Robby will be proved wrong and then the above will be obvious to all.

“False” means these claims by Robby are not true, because they are in conflict with what I know (which I don't have to disclose) from authoritative sources (Bugs) +  those Robby hasn't been able to verify or substantiate in his wild (unbelievable) claims (above).

Refer also to many references on GPOZ….(   )

I'm not electronics savvy but my faith is with Bugs in his ethics, his QED, his integrity & honesty, not the Flounders rants denigrating him & the QED.

        There's a connection between ML IP and the PI pioneer's patents before those of ML. (Huego)

Doug and Bugs have shown this in many ways, many times, here, on GPOZ, on Finders so I'm not going through it again. Robby simply doesn't accept it.

Huego

PS: Did he say I was not fair, unfair or unfare?  Clown


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« Reply #24 on: Thursday March 3 2011 09:25:59 AEDT AM »

  
Hi Huego,

You have really riled Robby_H with some of your posts, he even used the word fair instead of fare in one of his rants.

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Hugs, if you believe there's a connection between ML IP and the PI pioneer's patents before those of ML then spit it out in words we can all understand. Offer some real proof because Dug and Bugs have failed to show any connection whatsoever.

Can be answered by asking him why he refused earlier to answer the simple question of "which of the basic PI detector building blocks developed by the early pioneers do ML not use"?

His
They claim no need to buy the next model because the QED is upgradeable. I've seen pictures of the latest board and it's obvious they will have to alter or change the board to make further improvements. This is incredibly obvious and they must know it!!!! They are having you on.

This "crock of" is not worthy of an answer.

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This whole debate hinges on whether or not Bugs et al had sufficient knowledge to have implemented MPS or arrived at his GB methods without knowing anything about Minelab's methods.

This is demolished by Poole's 1970's GB method that claimed 2 or more samples to cancel the ground. It doesn't matter if the energy in these samples are derived from a single TX length or multiple TX lengths. All "modern day" GB methods are derivations of this true pioneers work.

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I too had to laugh at Robby_H 's statement on the upgradeability of the QED!He claims to base  his comments on pictures he has seen of the latest board.
The problem is that the board is double sided and he has only seen one side! ie only a partial picture!
What else has he not seen? No doubt about it Robby_H likes making a fool of himself,it seems to come naturally to him!
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« Reply #25 on: Thursday March 3 2011 11:09:52 AEDT AM »

Robby_H has again side stepped a direct answer to the question of "what basic PI detector building blocks developed by the early pioneers does ML not use"

Some time back I posed a question to Robby_H on subtractive ground balance and it's ability to null out anything from a pin to a double decker bus. He agreed.
What he didn't realise in that trick question was that somewhere in that mix of decay curve characteristics is mineralised ground.
Now he is trying to tell us that a fly swat to kill flies (wet sand) is a totally different implement to that used to kill blowflies (highly mineralised ground).
He is also trying to tell us the ML's GB provides universal cancellation of the ground. Try telling that to people who detect clay domes and other hot, highly mineralised patches daily. If it was truly universal there would be no GB button.

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« Reply #26 on: Thursday March 3 2011 11:23:02 AEDT AM »

  
Robby_H has again side stepped a direct answer to the question of "what basic PI detector building blocks developed by the early pioneers does ML not use"

Some time back I posed a question to Robby_H on subtractive ground balance and it's ability to null out anything from a pin to a double decker bus. He agreed.
What he didn't realise in that trick question was that somewhere in that mix of decay curve characteristics is mineralised ground.
Now he is trying to tell us that a fly swat to kill flies (wet sand) is a totally different implement to that used to kill blowflies (highly mineralised ground).
He is also trying to tell us the ML's GB provides universal cancellation of the ground. Try telling that to people who detect clay domes and other hot, highly mineralised patches daily. If it was truly universal there would be no GB button.

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With all the techno waffle that Robby_H posts he still absolutely refuses to provide any technically credible and irrefutable evidence that the QED is just:"a cheap digitized copy of ML'S IP"
The same goes for the QED innovation patent, he is unable to provide any irrefutable evidence that it is copy of ML's IP or infringes any of ML's IP!
I note that he also refuses to answer any of the many other question that i have posed. eg how a patent application can be infringing another patent application or what I did that was illegal by publishing pictures of an unprotected gpx extreme circuit board on my other forum.
As i have said we may have to drag the truth out of him in another place at another time!
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« Reply #27 on: Thursday March 10 2011 10:55:42 AEDT AM »

Robby & Robert the couple that swing together are now crying "foul" ..... FOUL PLAY! ........ DOBBA!

They say its un-Australian to report illegal, unethical or uncompetititve behaviour to the .... Australian Competition & Consumer Commission (ACCC)?  

NOW, read the above sentence again........ S L O W L Y!   rolleye 1
 
Rather more serious, IS IT

     "Australian" to break the law, behave unethically & suppress competition??

     "Australian" to deny, attack & belittle an all-Australian competitive product (eg QED), its designers & supporters??

That behaviour Robert, by Flounders & Fanatics, is both gutless & un-Australian!   ::55::

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« Reply #28 on: Thursday March 10 2011 11:25:33 AEDT AM »

  
Robby & Robert the couple that swing together are now crying "foul" ..... FOUL PLAY! ........ DOBBA!

They say its un-Australian to report illegal, unethical or uncompetititve behaviour to the .... Australian Competition & Consumer Commission (ACCC)?  

NOW, read the above sentence again........ S L O W L Y!   rolleye 1
 
Rather more serious, IS IT

     "Australian" to break the law, behave unethically & suppress competition??

     "Australian" to deny, attack & belittle an all-Australian competitive product (eg QED), its designers & supporters??

That behavior Robert, by Flounders & Fanatics, is both gutless & un-Australian!   ::55::

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The subject has really hit a raw nerve!
Its a PR disaster for ML and comes on top of what I hear are very slow sales of the 5000.On top of this most of M's detector manufacturing/assembling is now being done in Malaysia by the plexus corporation according to reports on other forums. So here we have an Australian company exporting  manufacturing jobs overseas! ::54::
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« Reply #29 on: Thursday March 10 2011 11:40:07 AEDT AM »

  

. So here we have an Australian company exporting  manufacturing jobs overseas! ::54::


Be sure that profits too, to avoid Australian tax duty.
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« Reply #30 on: Thursday March 10 2011 12:01:00 AEDT PM »

When the SD2000 appeared it sold for $4600 and I know somebody who found enough gold in the first week to buy a house.
Goldnomad with a 5000($6700) and wife with a 4500 ($6000?)  average 1.5 grams per day between them.
How long do you think it will take before the penny drops?

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« Reply #31 on: Thursday March 10 2011 14:35:07 AEDT PM »

  

When the SD2000 appeared it sold for $4600 and I know somebody who found enough gold in the first week to buy a house.
Goldnomad with a 5000($6700) and wife with a 4500 ($6000?)  average 1.5 grams per day between them.
How long do you think it will take before the penny drops?

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Do you think they are saving for a house in Dunolly? I know they are cheap there but....... the "penny would have to drop" pretty damn frequently for them to buy a house, or a night on the town!  Clown Or a new 5500 or 6000!!

Yes, we know Robert is "doing it just for fun", just like the "fun" he & flounders have denigrarting  the "vapor detector" and its supporters!  rolleye 1

(hey, what happened to the "VAPOUR DETECTOR" .... the "crumpet on a stick" eh Robert? Vapourised? like one of your "farts in the wind?")  Clown Clown Clown

"Good thing they are ML shareholders, getting dividends from sales to silly fun-lovers just like themselves eh?"  Clown

Of course this is just one theory (that matches the facts) explaining WHY "they" (the flounders) were denying the QED, then fighting competition & QED supporters on this forum while obsessively defensive of ML business ethics & methods! They were promised rewards eg by ML (eg as a kinda "dividend"?), or were they brainwashed by their own rants in the rant house?

The QED with a stick up for itself, while sticking it up the denigrators, & it won't cost $10K either!   Enjoy your pension!

Yep, my advice to all ML supporters is spend your pension (or gold savings) on ML shares!  ( I am mug punter, not a financial adviser! Bahahaha)

Do it  NOW!!  I eyed


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« Reply #32 on: Monday March 14 2011 23:50:20 AEDT PM »

  
Robby & Robert the couple that swing together are now crying "foul" ..... FOUL PLAY! ........ DOBBA!

They say its un-Australian to report illegal, unethical or uncompetititve behaviour to the .... Australian Competition & Consumer Commission (ACCC)?  

NOW, read the above sentence again........ S L O W L Y!   rolleye 1
 
Rather more serious,

IS IT......

     "Australian" to break the law, behave unethically & suppress competition??   NO!

     "Australian" to deny, attack & belittle an all-Australian competitive product (eg QED), its designers & supporters??   NO!

That behaviour Robert, by Flounders & Fanatics, is both gutless & un-Australian!   ::55::

Huego


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Ohhhh,   Robert & Co, I forgot to say (I was reminded really) ........

How un-Australian for an Australian-based company to export jobs (manufactuiring) overseas & maintain high profits by excluding competition! Loyalty?

How un-Australian to charge MORE for GPX in Australia than in US when the dollar is on parity (allowing for GST). Loyalty to Prospectors or Shareholders?

How un-Australian to block competition & discounting between dealers (looking very like an excercise in price control! )  Do the ACCC know about this & dealer contracts? Ask Rick!

Should i go on????????   confused


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  Doug, did you not earlier say to ignore what Finders say?  I thought you were a man of his word!  I guess I was wrong, so carry on.  I hope the QED is released soon and beats Minelab into the ground like you say it will! 
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« Reply #34 on: Sunday June 24 2012 01:20:07 AEST AM »

Cant speak for Doug, but I can say that its hard to ignore posts from Finders which are designed to INFLAME, are full of lies, distortions, false allegations, assumptions, defamation etc about the QED or its developers here.

We know the facts, they don't, that's why their BS is intollerable to some of us.
Surely that is SO OBVIOUS to you and your mates? And YOU add to any tension with your TAUNTS!!  rolleye 1

Doug made that suggestion about ignoring flounders, as I sometimes do too, but don't follow through. Posting suggestions are not orders, not ones I abide by. In fact its hard for him too ignore flounder's stupid or foolish remarks too. We post totally independently of each other & there is no Leader.

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« Reply #35 on: Sunday June 26 2016 20:45:13 AEST PM »

This argument has been going on for too long ...on one side of the ring is a detector that is good but cant be bought. On the other side is a detector (s) that has its share of detractors but if you want one you can choose to buy or not. Hardly a market comparison or choice for consumers. Consumers NOT the maker get to say whether a product is good or not.
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« Reply #36 on: Monday June 27 2016 07:36:44 AEST AM »

  
This argument has been going on for too long ...on one side of the ring is a detector that is good but cant be bought. On the other side is a detector (s) that has its share of detractors but if you want one you can choose to buy or not. Hardly a market comparison or choice for consumers. Consumers NOT the maker get to say whether a product is good or not.

  You are so right Moodz.  I wish a few others would wise up and see it.
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« Reply #37 on: Monday June 27 2016 11:30:14 AEST AM »

 Moodz if you saw the recent rubbish being posted on another “forum” by Robby_H you might have a different opinion of him. He accuses you of evasion and refusal to answer questions on Geotech and that you lodge patent applications and then withdraw them or allow them to lapse before anybody can see them and thus be able to comment on them! He also claims that you not have anything that is new or novel in the field of PI metal detector technology or is any advancement of the art! He also infers that you do not have any understanding whatsoever of  GB technology and in particular VRM ground.
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« Reply #38 on: Monday June 27 2016 11:44:10 AEST AM »

  
Moodz if you saw the recent rubbish being posted on another “forum” by Robby_H you might have a different opinion of him. He accuses you of evasion and refusal to answer questions on Geotech and that you lodge patent applications and then withdraw them or allow them to lapse before anybody can see them and thus be able to comment on them! He also claims that you not have anything that is new or novel in the field of PI metal detector technology or is any advancement of the art! He also infers that you do not have any understanding whatsoever of  GB technology and in particular VRM ground.
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  Doug how about a link to this forum you are talking about?  Would like to check it out.
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