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« on: Saturday January 28 2012 15:43:03 AEDT PM »

 I will upload some pictures to show you some bulk sampling and the costeans,the plant etc.
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« Reply #1 on: Saturday January 28 2012 15:48:47 AEDT PM »

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« Reply #2 on: Saturday January 28 2012 15:54:18 AEDT PM »

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A section of one of  the 100m wide the costeans.The wash dirt is the darker colored material exposed in the wall of the costean  just above the bed rock.
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« Reply #3 on: Saturday January 28 2012 16:05:29 AEDT PM »

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« Reply #4 on: Saturday January 28 2012 16:23:38 AEDT PM »

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The project consultant geologist supervising the  digging of a costean and in this shot the digging out of the wash dirt (dark color) to make sure that  all the wash dirt + a few inches of bed rock was loaded onto the truck to be taken to the plant. The bottom of the lead was very undulating in places somewhat like a egg carton which made sampling more difficult.In some places the gradient of the lead was also reversed shocked ie it was decreasing as we progressed down the lead! Their was also some evidence of small waterfalls and rapids.  In the best areas the old timers had scraped the bedrock with their picks and you could still see these marks!In these places a lot of the wash had  been removed although pillars remained between the holes and they may have only taken 6"-12" or wash when the wash was up to 3 feet thick. In one costean their was a false bottom which sadly fooled even the geologist  and it was only when the operation was coming to an end that I discovered this and the rich gold under this false bottom which sadly we never mined. sad1
Notice the size of some of the boulders! We uncovered some much bigger ones in some test pits and another costean!
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday January 28 2012 16:34:17 AEDT PM »

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A costean in the shallower, upper portion of the lead.The top of the very iron stained wash dirt is clearly visible as is the presence of sub angular quartz/ironstone in the wash.You can see an old diggers hole in the wall of the costean and the removal of some wash dirt directly below it.
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday January 28 2012 18:29:29 AEDT PM »

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A section of one of  the 100m wide the costeans.
The wash dirt is the darker colored material exposed in the wall of the costean just above the bed rock.
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Great Pics Doug!!   Like they meant to say .......  "a dozen pics says a thousand words!!"

Do you mean the costean was  1 m wide  x 100 m long??

I would be douwn their hand "sampling" as well into buckets!

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday January 28 2012 18:56:34 AEDT PM »

  
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A section of one of  the 100m wide the costeans.
The wash dirt is the darker colored material exposed in the wall of the costean just above the bed rock.
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Great Pics Doug!!   Like they meant to say .......  "a dozen pics says a thousand words!!"

Do you mean the costean was  1 m wide  x 100 m long??

I would be douwn their hand "sampling" as well into buckets!

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Yes 4x 100 x1m  costeans=approx 600 bcm(bank cubic meters) then 5x5 =25,000 bcm test pits, then mine! Average recovered grade was .36 grms/bcm. Could have been and should have been over .4 grm/bcm! Had our JV partners not stuffed up and gone in receivership then I would be wealthy man today! Some reefs containing visible gold were uncovered during mining but still remain untouched today!!!!! sad1 More pics to come!
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday January 28 2012 22:35:33 AEDT PM »

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Some typical Avoca lead diggings in  the deeper ground (costean4) looking east.
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« Reply #9 on: Saturday January 28 2012 22:47:00 AEDT PM »

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A close up of the washdirt exposed in costean 4.Note the lighter colored ,soft,whitish slate bottom in the middle of the picture which is was  usually favorable for higher gold grades (good gold trap with crevices and cracks and a decrease in stream velocity or gradient change which drops gold ) compared to a smoother sandstone bottom where the grades were usually very poor because of the absence of good gold traps.The exception was where a vein or leader crossed the lead in the sandstone bottom.
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday September 10 2014 10:29:45 AEST AM »

Hey Doug, new member here, nice post! I am currently looking for land to buy in Central Goldfields on heavy old workings. When we dig test pits we are finding that the amazing looking decomposed stained quartz on the surface only goes down about 400mm, then we strike 3m plus of red and white pipe clay. Were the old boys going deeper than this? We sometimes find a thin band (300mm) of rough jagged material similar to that on the surface at about 3.5m depth, but no tumbled pebbles.

Just to guage the scale on the Avocca photos - how deep is that wash layer underground, and what is the depth of the actual wash layer itself? Was the clay above it any good at all, or only the wash layer? Did you find tumbled pebbles in the wash, or jagged like on the surface in these areas?

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« Reply #11 on: Saturday June 20 2015 16:56:34 AEST PM »

  
Hey Doug, new member here, nice post! I am currently looking for land to buy in Central Goldfields on heavy old workings. When we dig test pits we are finding that the amazing looking decomposed stained quartz on the surface only goes down about 400mm, then we strike 3m plus of red and white pipe clay. Were the old boys going deeper than this? We sometimes find a thin band (300mm) of rough jagged material similar to that on the surface at about 3.5m depth, but no tumbled pebbles.

Just to guage the scale on the Avocca photos - how deep is that wash layer underground, and what is the depth of the actual wash layer itself? Was the clay above it any good at all, or only the wash layer? Did you find tumbled pebbles in the wash, or jagged like on the surface in these areas?

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The wash varied in depth from about 2 meters in shallower ground on the s portion of the lease to over 7m in the n portion. In the deeper ground some false bottoms were  also encounted. Most of the best gold was only in the wash and in fractures and cracks in slate bedrock and the old timers in many places  only removed about 6"-12" of wash and on slate bottoms 2"- 3" of basement. The wash contained both angular and water worn quartz.Some of the quartz boulders were up to nearly 3 feet in diameter! The gold was also very varied in character from smooth to quite hacky and  angular.The hacky and rough gold was probably derived from reefs and leaders on  rising ground on the east of the lease and from at least one reef  found in the lead basement which was never properly tested for grade but did contain some visible gold.
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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday December 29 2021 14:14:24 AEDT PM »

There is a lot of information that you have left out, like all the disputes between you and your partners and their claims of you trying to rip them off. The use of other peoples money, and the appalling lack of rehabilitation. There is another side to your story, plus you claim all of the gold was found by you when you had partners. Not so impressive when the whole story is told.
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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday December 29 2021 14:45:36 AEDT PM »

  
There is a lot of information that you have left out, like all the disputes between you and your partners and their claims of you trying to rip them off. The use of other peoples money, and the appalling lack of rehabilitation. There is another side to your story, plus you claim all of the gold was found by you when you had partners. Not so impressive when the whole story is told.

Well your info is totally wrong. I did not not try to rip the jv partners off! The opposite is true as they broke the contract and were allowed to do so by a  totally negligent mines inspector. The JV partners  did not rehabilitate as required and left me the option of coming up with $100k + or forfeiting  the lease which is what happened.  The fact is i was  granted the lease (i pegged it myself) and spent  many months researching   shallow alluvial leads before deciding on this one. My big mistake was  getting the wrong JV partners who  were as it turns out almost broke and trusting the mines dept to enforce the lease conditions.Had i selected  Sandy Grey as a JV partner then things would have been very different. The workers for the JV partners frequently got on the piss and  i was lucky that no one was killed or injured as they worked  at times under the influence. The fact is that without my research the project and the gold it produced would have never gone ahead!
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ps getting the  tenement granted and the research hours cost thousands of dollars so it was not totally  a case of using other peoples money!
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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday December 29 2021 16:33:53 AEDT PM »

Yeah,yeah, your version Doug. It just so happens that I was detecting on a property nearby (with permission) at the time and got the inside info from locals. Regardless of your protestations it is bullshit that you single headedly recovered 1,300 ozs, and despite your excuses you cocked it up. Wrong partners? Well whose fault was that? How strange that your partners all had the same story, but you were right and they were wrong.
You can fool some of the people who weren't there and wouldn't know, but you can't fool those of us who were there.
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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday December 29 2021 16:49:08 AEDT PM »

  
Yeah,yeah, your version Doug. It just so happens that I was detecting on a property nearby (with permission) at the time and got the inside info from locals. Regardless of your protestations it is bullshit that you single headedly recovered 1,300 ozs, and despite your excuses you cocked it up. Wrong partners? Well whose fault was that? How strange that your partners all had the same story, but you were right and they were wrong.
You can fool some of the people who weren't there and wouldn't know, but you can't fool those of us who were there.

Without  my research and the granted tenement then 1300 oz of gold would not have been recovered!! I did not ??ck up! The JV partners did as did the mines inspector who did not do his job!!!!! Yes i made a big mistake by choosing them but i take people at face value and trusted them. Yes the locals know about the project because some of them ended up with the gold that "walked". There was no security at the plant! eg Their were NO lockable covers on the tops of the jigs or the jig sumps so that it was easy for someone to  sneak in at night and help themselves particularly if no one was onsite or those  onsite were sleeping it off!!!!!!
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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday December 29 2021 16:51:28 AEDT PM »

  
You can fool some of the people who weren't there and wouldn't know, but you can't fool those of us who were there.

Were you there during the operation?
Do you  have all the documentation and photo's as i still do?
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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday December 29 2021 17:04:08 AEDT PM »

Ha Ha. You can protest all you like, but it won't change the fact that you stuffed up and bullshitted your way through it. Everyone, including the Mines Inspector were in the wrong but not you. Pull the other one.
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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday December 29 2021 17:15:49 AEDT PM »

  
Ha Ha. You can protest all you like, but it won't change the fact that you stuffed up and bullshitted your way through it. Everyone, including the Mines Inspector were in the wrong but not you. Pull the other one.

Reg you are talking through your anus again!!! Their is much you don't know about what happened! Just accept that fact that due to my efforts, money and time that i had project that produced more gold than you have ever found! So suck it up!!!
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