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« on: Monday January 17 2011 23:53:45 AEDT PM »

One of the things that really annoys me is fenced off ground , even out in whoop whoop  its now risky to jump a fence .
 I'm just looking at interesting ground , I don't know who has the pastoral lease , gee' its a spur of the moment decision to check that spot .

Been asked to get going nicely to being abused , what happened to the old miners right ?    ::95::

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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday January 18 2011 08:58:23 AEDT AM »

On Fence jumping

Bobby, in Vic (where we do have a Miners Right operating (ie if you buy one), they don't give automatic "right of access" to private land or leased land. Fences to me indicate private or leased land. So even if I see nice bush, tempting diggings & ground behind the fence I avoid it (ie don’t jump the fence). Its hard at times! If I meet a leaseholder / owner, eg fixing a fence, I will have a chat and ask for permission.

Much more difficult for you Bobby. In vast areas of WA NSW and QLD we may be taking about large area of leased "Crown land", for which permission from lessee is still required, due to potential clashes with his operations (eg cattle sheep gates etc). But where are they when you want them?

As I hinted to those who chose the VERY unfortunate nicks, Fencejumper &  Claimjumper, the actions of fence jumping and claim jumping carries serious RISKS.
Jumpers risk leaving their gum nuts behind on the barb, and being nicked, or called NoGo-Nads.

So… It’s a No Go Lad lest you be left as No Go Nads

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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday January 18 2011 09:58:54 AEDT AM »

  How do you PM other members here?  I have some info on a new forum that is about the topics here and "the other forum" but do not want to post the link for all to see!  Help! confused
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday January 18 2011 10:22:16 AEDT AM »

  
 How do you PM other members here?  I have some info on a new forum that is about the topics here and "the other forum" but do not want to post the link for all to see!  Help! confused

First click on "messages" next to your nick (right corner above  in site header), then next step will be logic to you , I hope.
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday January 18 2011 10:29:26 AEDT AM »

  
 How do you PM other members here?  I have some info on a new forum that is about the topics here and "the other forum" but do not want to post the link for all to see!  Help! confused

I woud love to know about the new forum and so would many other members here Arozona, so please share with all, I am sure Doug won't mind.  Or send me a PM if you prefer. happy face

Are you doing a recruitment drive?
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday January 18 2011 20:59:24 AEDT PM »

First click on "messages" next to your nick (right corner above  in site header), then next step will be logic to you , I hope.


I don't see the word "messages" anywhere, I don't understand the term,"next to
your nick" and no, the next step is'nt logic to me. Please explain in idiot language.
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday January 18 2011 21:39:53 AEDT PM »

  
First click on "messages" next to your nick (right corner above  in site header), then next step will be logic to you , I hope.


I don't see the word "messages" anywhere, I don't understand the term,"next to
your nick" and no, the next step is'nt logic to me. Please explain in idiot language.
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Cliff

Hi Cliff,

just use the following link:

  

On the left side:
Messages: -> New Message
Quite similar to other e-mail forms.

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday January 18 2011 22:00:14 AEDT PM »

  
First click on "messages" next to your nick (right corner above  in site header), then next step will be logic to you , I hope.


I don't see the word "messages" anywhere, I don't understand the term,"next to
your nick" and no, the next step is'nt logic to me. Please explain in idiot language.
Regards,
Cliff

Citation from Wikipedia:

"In the context of information technology, a nickname (or technically a nick) is a common synonym for the screenname  or handle of a user.

Nickname is a name to shorten a name. Nick is a term originally used to identify a person in a system for synchronous conferencing. In computer networks it has become a common practice for every person to also have one or more nicknames for the purposes of anonymity, to avoid ambiguity or simply because the natural name or technical address would be too long to type or take too much space on the screen."

And sorry for "logic", maybe it have to be "logical"?


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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday January 18 2011 22:28:10 AEDT PM »

Cliff,

members here are from all over the world and English / Inglish is NOT their first / native language. They are trying to be helpful. Look around and experiment as many areas are "hot linked". The message area is one. It is also visible at the bottom of the index page you will see an place under new members names where any messages are also hot linked to the PM message site.

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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday January 19 2011 09:02:18 AEDT AM »


 Huego
  Once again I support your views and opinion. confused Clown
For fence jumpers ,claim jumpers,and high graders,
What comes around goes around.
 
 Is a few crumbs of gold worth your pride,or quite
possibly your life? Jumping fences or claims is just
a handy way to justify being a common low grade
thief. In spite of all the crap,gold is only worth what
it will sell for. All the mystical theories of what it does
to people is plain BS. Greed is greed plain and simple,
and is not caused by some magic power.

 Anyone that would trespass to steal gold will steal
anything. For all the guys that think it is ok to steal
and trespass,there is people that think it is alright
to use any means to stop them. You may get away
with it for awhile,but you may meet one of the property
owners with a bad attitude, and believes it is OK to
end the problem permanently.

 While you are sneaking around like a coyote where
you are not supposed to be,you may want to look
over your shoulder. What used to be your vehicle or
camp might be a cloud of smoke.
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday January 19 2011 10:33:34 AEDT AM »

Sawmill,

Thanks for your opinions on the US perspective, as you are an active claim holder, they should be heeded. In mentioning “fence jumping” & “claim jumping” I was speaking generally, but particularly of Australia.

Claim jumping (anywhere) is outright stealing and not justifiable under any circumstances. Where diggings and goldfields are on privately owned land (ie titled land, as probably is the case in Vic) entry should only be with owner approval, even if owners appear disinterested in these diggings. If signs are visible eg “no trespassing”, “keep out” then these should be taken seriously. However, many prospectors here, myself included, feel a soft spot for what Bobby is saying in referring to access to leased crown land.

Does “fence jumping” (tresspassing) onto private land also apply to “crown land” leased from Govt, usually only for grazing purposes (as is the case in the larger states of WA, NSW and Qld)? When such leasing excludes mining, entry usually still requires prior approval, or at least advising the lessee. (The pastoral lessee has no mineral rights to the land; his concerns and limitations apply to stock safety, water supply, gates etc.).

Like many with a Miners Right, I see this “crown land” (including creek and river frontages) as common land, owned by the people of the nation (including & particularly the indigenous) and managed by the Govt or original “owners”. (You can see I’m no royalist).  ::38::   Old diggings and goldfields where prospectors mostly want to poke around here, are either in State / National Parks (eg as in Vic) or on such “crown” land.

This is my own broad (if naive) understanding of the situation here. It would be interesting to get the perspectives of others who have worked on goldfields in others states more extensively, like Alluvium or Trevor. I just tend to be more vocal than most and prepared to stick my neck out on what I think.  Clown

Huego

PS: Do you jump fences Jumbo? We know you do!
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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday January 19 2011 13:23:39 AEDT PM »

  
However, many prospectors here, myself included, feel a soft spot for what Bobby is saying in referring to access to leased crown land.



Like many with a Miners Right, I see this “crown land” (including creek and river frontages) as common land, owned by the people of the nation (including & particularly the indigenous) and managed by the Govt or original “owners”. (You can see I’m no royalist).  ::38::   Old diggings and goldfields where prospectors mostly want to poke around here, are either in State / National Parks (eg as in Vic) or on such “crown” land.


Huego



Well said Huego, I've been asked to leave even when there was no fence , no signs , no nothing !    confused

Lots of Cockys are just worried about insurance liabilities & there so called  " duty of care " even when they give the OK .

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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday January 19 2011 13:52:33 AEDT PM »

  

Well said Huego, I've been asked to leave even when there was no fence , no signs , no nothing !    confused

Lots of Cockys are just worried about insurance liabilities & their so called  " duty of care " even when they give the OK .

Bobby.


True Bobby! Cockies and Mining exploration Co's are worried about accident and malicious damage,

Some cockies I know have expressed concerns about gates being left open, camping near water troughs for sheep or cattle (sometimes polluting the water or inadvertently scaring animals from approaching to drink), rubbish left behind at campsites, fires left unattended, indiscriminate shooting (sometimes of livestock), fencing damage ....... so many have had legitimate concerns as well.

This can only be improved by correcting a prospectors image & behaviour and that is by doing the right thing.

AS you say, its hard to justify or support the cockies "rights" when there are NO fences or warnings of private or leased land.

Cheers, Huego   happy face
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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday January 19 2011 18:29:07 AEDT PM »

Thanks Aziz, WM6 and Heugo. To think I never knew that "nick" was short for
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« Reply #14 on: Thursday January 20 2011 00:59:43 AEDT AM »

  
Sawmill,

Thanks for your opinions on the US perspective, as you are an active claim holder, they should be heeded. In mentioning “fence jumping” & “claim jumping” I was speaking generally, but particularly of Australia.

Claim jumping (anywhere) is outright stealing and not justifiable under any circumstances. Where diggings and goldfields are on privately owned land (ie titled land, as probably is the case in Vic) entry should only be with owner approval, even if owners appear disinterested in these diggings. If signs are visible eg “no trespassing”, “keep out” then these should be taken seriously. However, many prospectors here, myself included, feel a soft spot for what Bobby is saying in referring to access to leased crown land.

Does “fence jumping” (tresspassing) onto private land also apply to “crown land” leased from Govt, usually only for grazing purposes (as is the case in the larger states of WA, NSW and Qld)? When such leasing excludes mining, entry usually still requires prior approval, or at least advising the lessee. (The pastoral lessee has no mineral rights to the land; his concerns and limitations apply to stock safety, water supply, gates etc.).

Like many with a Miners Right, I see this “crown land” (including creek and river frontages) as common land, owned by the people of the nation (including & particularly the indigenous) and managed by the Govt or original “owners”. (You can see I’m no royalist).  ::38::   Old diggings and goldfields where prospectors mostly want to poke around here, are either in State / National Parks (eg as in Vic) or on such “crown” land.

This is my own broad (if naive) understanding of the situation here. It would be interesting to get the perspectives of others who have worked on goldfields in others states more extensively, like Alluvium or Trevor. I just tend to be more vocal than most and prepared to stick my neck out on what I think.  Clown

Huego

PS: Do you jump fences Jumbo? We know you do!

G’day Huego,

I have had leases and I have also had persons ask if they could dryblow on my lease, I said no.
The reason for saying no is that they leave their mess behind and I am left with having to rehabilitate this after they have left.

As to claim jumping I do not operate any where near a working lease. It it’s an EL lease yes I will work that area as I don’t believe the Mining Companies should be allowed to tie up vast tracts of land with little work being undertaken.

And yes I have worked leases that I know are only taken up for speculation purposes, more so when I know it belongs to a certain politician with no interest in prospecting or mining other than having inside knowledge of what may be in the pipeline, and has taken this up waiting for the mining company to take up external lease’s.

Although most of the time I work VCL or on pending lease’s.  There are also many lease’s taken out on speculation only awaiting offers from mining companies, so in that case yes I do jump on lease’s if that be the case.

So if anyone disagrees with my views please feel free to shoot me down.

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« Reply #15 on: Thursday January 20 2011 10:58:32 AEDT AM »

Thanks for your views Trevor.

You have no argument from me. What you do seems all legit and reasonable, in WA particularly. As you were formerly a park ranger I reckon the ethics and legal matters of access and prospecting would be important to you. There are terms used in WA that are unfamilar to many here. What is a VCL?

Huego  happy face

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« Reply #16 on: Thursday January 20 2011 15:47:18 AEDT PM »

G'day Huego,

VCL is Vacant Crown Land. Once a Mining Company has no further use of a EL Exploration Lease it tends to revert back to  VCL.

Any lease once it has exired also reverts back to VCL.

When checking on land tenure on Tengraph, VCL shows up as an area in black, Pending lease's are normally shaded in blue.

Hopr this helps to some extent,

Cheers,
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« Reply #17 on: Thursday February 17 2011 22:13:49 AEDT PM »

Quote from: Huego link=topic=1723.msg8065#msg8065 date=129

As I hinted to those who chose the VERY unfortunate nicks, [u
Fencejumper[/u] &  Claimjumper, the actions of fence jumping and claim jumping carries serious RISKS.
[/color][/b].

So… It’s a No Go Lad lest you be left as No Go Nads

 happy face


hi hugey

good to see your still thinking of me
hows your qed going, hope you have been having fun with it
cheers fencejumper

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« Reply #18 on: Thursday February 17 2011 22:48:50 AEDT PM »

  
Quote from: Huego link=topic=1723.msg8065#msg8065 date=129


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As I hinted to those who chose the VERY unfortunate nicks Fencejumper & Claimjumper, the actions of fence jumping and claim jumping carries serious RISKS.

So… It’s a No Go Lad lest you be left as No Go Nads

 happy face


hi hugey

good to see your still thinking of me  hows your qed going, hope you have been having fun with it
cheers fencejumper


Awesome mate, but as you know I'm an enthusiastic supporter & prone to praise!
Ask the denigrators. Even they reckon its real & not vapour!!

How's the gonad transplants going? OUCH!  ::55::
Could they find the originals you left on the fence or did the dingos get em! Nare not worth it!   Clown
  

Cheers Huey

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« Reply #19 on: Friday February 18 2011 15:58:07 AEDT PM »

hi hugey

the gonads are a bit tingly...i reckon the farmers are upping the current on those electric fences

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