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Interfacion Pty Ltd is pleased to announce that the QED PI Detector has been modified to allow the use of DD (double D) coils. This change involves a simple change to the electronics within the control box.
The firmware has also been upgraded to include a further improved Ground Balance.
All detectors being delivered to new customers from Monday 5th August 2019 will already have the above upgrades included.
As a show of commitment to all QED owners, the hardware modification to allow use of the DD and CC coils will be provided at no cost.
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Any QED owner who plans to attend the Laanecoorie Bash is encouraged to bring their detector along and have it upgraded at no cost.
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« on: Thursday February 21 2019 16:41:12 AEDT PM »

Hello everyone.

New QED owner and a reader of all things QED here for a few weeks.  There is some great info on here so thanks for making the beginnings of my QED ownership a little easier.  And apologies in advance that this is so long.

Been detecting for 3 years and have owned a GPZ 7000 and an SDC 2300, added a Gold Monster and then added an Equinox.
Sold the SDC early on as realised that the GPZ will get things easily as small as the SDC but also a lot deeper.  And it will get the real deep, big stuff also.
The Gold Monster was just for a bit of fun and something for family and friends to use if they came out.  It worked well but when I got the Equinox I soon realised the Equinox was just as capable on small gold and far more versatile across many more uses (coins, jewellery, beach, etc).  I know there are many here that have issues with Minelab as a company but the Equinox really is a fantastic, light weight detector.  Probably the one that I have enjoyed using the most.
The GPZ finally got sold with a few months warranty left on it as it just wasn’t getting used enough  to justify $9,500 sitting in the cupboard. 
But I still wanted something that I could use when I did get the time to get out, something lighter than the GPZ and something at a much more sensible price.  I am on a couple of other forums that JR Beatty and Reg Wilson frequent and if experienced blokes like those 2 felt the QED was capable then it seemed worth a try. 

I received the QED on Monday.  Purchased through Maldon Gold Centre but it is a Detech package put together by Stinky Pete at Detech with an 11” Ultra Sensing Coil.

I have obviously got weak from swinging the Equinox (1.34 KG) as I was expecting the QED to feel a bit lighter although it is only 2.15 kg itself.  Nothing compared to swinging the GPZ though (3.32 kg). 

Everything charged up and have had the last 2 days off to play.  Having read lots on here and never having used a GP/GPX series or a Garret, etc, P.I. machine I felt that I might have things a little easier in that I wouldn’t have to unlearn old thinking and start again. This was sort of the case…

Day 1 – about 4 hours total at 2 different locations that I have found small gold (up to 1 gram) and have flogged pretty well with the GPZ, SDC and Gold Monster.  Considering this I was not expecting to find any targets at all.

For the life of me I could not get a steady threshold, the EMI seemed all over the place, ground balance was hard to get right, I was ground balancing often and I did “Factory Default” about 8 times for the day just to re-start things from afresh.  Tried different modes, different THS A, THS B – nothing helped!  I did find 1 larger than average shot gun pellet but that was it.  It was an ordinary day. 
I was using the supplied speaker with the supplied cable for my audio. In terms of ergonomics and catching on things I’m sorry to say but it is poor.  It is only a matter of time before the 6.5mm to 3.5 mm adapter sticking out of the battery box gets caught on something and bends/breaks.
Came home last night a little frustrated but knowing that there must be something that can be changed to improve the situation.  A little more reading on AEGPF last night. 

Day 2 – Went back to spot number 2 that I had gone yesterday.  Started the machine up with a ‘Factory Default’ and set it up in what I hoped was the right fashion.  Same thing as yesterday…bugger!  Persevered for 10 minutes and turned the speaker off, unplugged it and plugged in some Philips sports earbuds that I originally purchased to run off the WM-12 of the GPZ. 
WELL!!!   The difference was chalk and cheese!  A steady threshold, a ground balance that was easy to identify and it held.  I turned the THS A down 5 notches and the THS B also down 1 notch and the QED purred along. 
In the same place that I had found almost nothing yesterday I found what you can see in the photo below (if I can work out how to attach it).   Some on the surface and some at depth.  Deepest target was a nail at approx 7-8 inches.  The GPZ absolutely loved lead shot so I was very surprised to find any.  And if I am finding lead shot I am confident that it will find gold if the coil passes over.

Audio – whatever your personal desire it is obvious the QED needs quality audio.  Personally I hate being tethered to a detector and will soon change to wireless.
Some of the smaller shot close to the coil gave what you might call a usual ‘sound response’ – a little ‘wheee’ as the coil passed over.  I have seen comments on AEGPF about the pitch change and the volume change on targets.  I found this on the deeper targets.  As the coil edge hit the target there was a slight raise in volume, but then a change in pitch that dipped below threshold and then volume returned at the other edge of the coil.  All easily heard with the wired ear buds in.

Performance – apart from the SDC this is the first time I have used a PI machine. The SDC was fool proof but also ungainly and severely impacted by its versatility.  The QED has shown me that it will find small lead shot and will find it going over the same ground that other, more expensive machines, have covered pretty thoroughly.  I don’t feel that this makes the QED particularly better as all machines miss some targets, but it obviously has a point of difference and should be more than capable for me at finding small gold. 

I did have some issues with a patch of ground that was compacted white clay.  Was signalling off across much of it although they were broader signals that were not responding like a specific target.  Once dug and broken up the signal dissipated.  Due to it having such variability it was hard to Ground Balance that particular spot but that might come with practice and adaption.
All up I am now happy with performance so far and am keen to use a variety of coils that some friends have to see what will work well, play with different modes, etc.  The ability to run big coils and search new ground is the actual reason I bought the QED so we will see how that adventure goes   smile

Thanks for all of the info that is on here and hope this helps any prospective or new QED owners out there. 

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« Reply #1 on: Thursday February 21 2019 16:43:13 AEDT PM »

Today's finds. 
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« Reply #2 on: Thursday February 21 2019 17:47:28 AEDT PM »

Well done mate, and not bad for a new QED user. Like you, I do not like that 'dicky' speaker set up and suspect that the speaker has a derogatory effect on the QED electronics. Hate speakers at the best of times, although some swear by them. The new generation of flat or spiral wound coils are in some situations too flighty' and sensitive for the QED in variable ground, whereas the 8" Commander is a good all round coil that works very well on the QED, and still has enough sensitivity for very small gold. Even the big flat wound coils will behave themselves on mild ground, and no doubt have great sensitivity in a certain depth range, but I am not convinced that they are much of an advantage over extra large coils, which the QED seems to like.
 The only use I can see for the speaker is for simple demonstration purposes, and I urge all QED users to only use them for this purpose. Not my cup of tea.
 
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« Reply #3 on: Thursday February 21 2019 21:18:13 AEDT PM »

Thanks  Northeast for your warts and all report.Look forward to more! happy face
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« Reply #4 on: Thursday February 21 2019 21:59:16 AEDT PM »

Thanks Reg and Doug.

I suppose it is a bit of a 'warts and all' review but they are the reviews I like to read.  Not sugar coated by dealers and not kicked in the shins by the haters.  Just straight up how it is from a genuine user. 

It is encouraging that after only 4 proper hours on the QED today I feel quite a confidence that it is going to be a capable unit and do what it is I am wanting it to. 

Wireless system is the next goal.  I know Reg has used the Z-Link system and it works well.  I am wondering if anyone has used the XVIVE U2 Wireless Guitar units?  Apparently works well on a GPX and should be very simple plug and play with only a 6m/s delay.        

From what I have read across a few forums the Wi-Fi units are generally working well whereas the Bluetooth units are not great due to creating interference. 

Cheers NE. 

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« Reply #5 on: Friday February 22 2019 02:21:04 AEDT AM »

  

I am wondering if anyone has used the XVIVE U2 Wireless Guitar units?  


Here is described my solution using similar Wireles Guitar kit:

  


And here photo of final solution of fixation receiver part to headset.
First, part of 6,3mm adapter is epoxy fixed to headset frame and then receiver 6.3mm connector plugged in:


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« Reply #6 on: Friday February 22 2019 07:34:13 AEDT AM »

Hi WM6.

I did see your set-up somewhere through all these pages on the forum.  The only issue for me is that I dislike headphones but the receivers will easily attach to me or sit in a top pocket and the pair of sport headphones I use will plug straight in with an adapter.

Is your set-up Wi-Fi or Bluetooth?  Do you know what the lag is?  It obviously doesn't create interference for you?

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« Reply #7 on: Friday February 22 2019 11:16:44 AEDT AM »

A hint for anybody using the Logitech speaker on the QED. If you notice interference, try moving the speaker forward to increase the distance to the detector box.
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« Reply #8 on: Friday February 22 2019 18:07:44 AEDT PM »

  
Hi WM6.

I did see your set-up somewhere through all these pages on the forum.  The only issue for me is that I dislike headphones but the receivers will easily attach to me or sit in a top pocket and the pair of sport headphones I use will plug straight in with an adapter.

Is your set-up Wi-Fi or Bluetooth?  Do you know what the lag is?  It obviously doesn't create interference for you?

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Hi Northeast

Headphones can be (around) neckmount too, to not disturb surounding (potentially dangerous, snakes) voices.
It is loud more than enough, to not need to wear headphones to cover the ears.

By using sport head phones (I am also buying Koss one at Massdrop for 20 USD), receiver can be attached to neck tape (plugged to 6,3mm adapter - as on draving below)


It is newest WI-FI thecnology inside.

According specifications lad is 12 ms (miliseconds). This practically mean no perceptive delay.

The same with interference. Applied mobile phone technology succesfully filter out possible interferences.

All, that come out, is pure undistorted MD signal sound.



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« Reply #9 on: Saturday February 23 2019 22:03:45 AEDT PM »

Thanks WM6, I will have a look at them.

Bugwhiskers - thanks for the suggestion re: moving the speaker further away.  I did try this last night and ended up with the speaker down near the handle.  Unfortunately this didn't make any difference.  It just seems like the speaker doesn't have enough 'ooommph' to get the sound out in a consistent, smooth manner.  It is charged, etc, properly.  I'm not sure - maybe the speaker just faulty.

On a bright note I was only out for an hour and with the ear buds wired directly the QED ran very smoothly and found some more lead shot, a .22 projectile and a good signal under a log that turned out to be a short, necked down, centre fire cartridge that has me a bit intrigued.  Almost looks too skinny to be a .22 and not quite small enough to be a .17 and centre fire rather than rim fire with no discernible markings re: calibre or maker.  I'm guessing it may actually be a really old round from a pistol?

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« Reply #10 on: Sunday February 24 2019 07:52:51 AEDT AM »

The other day I put the Logitech speaker hard up against the side of the detector box, it had no effect at all. The Nokia speaker will beep when the "+" button is pressed and full volume is reached.
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« Reply #11 on: Sunday February 24 2019 09:32:28 AEDT AM »

i just purchased these i found on ebay works on the2.4ghz system only $60 for the phones and receiver,willdoa video review once received.if they work a way cheaper option than others that have been discussed previously.  excited   
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« Reply #12 on: Sunday February 24 2019 20:58:48 AEDT PM »

The transmitter looks rather large.
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« Reply #13 on: Monday February 25 2019 06:46:26 AEDT AM »

From the spec sheet Reg

Transmitter size  3.93 * 3.14 * 0.69in
Of more concern is this
Work time: about 2 hours
Charging time: about 1.5-2 hours

Did you look at this new unit I posted a few days ago?

Mars MD has rolled out a new product for 2019 – MDLink wireless headphone kit. Its distinctive feature is a 1ms delay, 4 channels, and… unlimited number of receivers.

More info can be found here.
  

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« Reply #14 on: Monday February 25 2019 11:19:20 AEDT AM »

egixe4, yes, I did pick up on that information. Very interesting indeed, and I shall await further developments, such as available date and price.
 I have been interested in wire free for some time, beginning with the TDK and Sennheiser systems which both transmit to their dedicated headphones. The TDK transmitter is very small and light and plugs directly into the detector with no noticeable interference, with on ear headphones which are light and comfortable. The Sennheiser transmitter is larger and needs to be a small distance from the detector electronics to avoid interference, and the earphones are over ear type although quite comfortable. Both these systems are adequate, but seeing as how I like noise cancelling I decided to go for a different option.
After trying different WiFi Tx Rx combinations I went for the Garrett Z Lynk, which I felt had the quality of audio I was looking for, giving me a number of options in the way of headphones and ear buds. The only criticism I have with the Z Lynk is that on the odd occasion the Tx module just shuts itself off. A quick glance down at the Tx confirms that the little red transmit light is not on. A simple press of the power button brings it back to life once I realize I have no threshold.
At the Laanecoorie bash I came into possession of the new Quest wireless setup, and this is now my main audio system linked to my Bose N/C earbuds. The advantage of these earbuds, beside the fact that they are brilliant, is that I can wear a wide brimmed hat.
 I look forward to having a look at the Mars wireless as having two receivers on the one channel would be most useful for instructing purposes.
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« Reply #15 on: Thursday May 30 2019 23:40:05 AEST PM »

Evening all.

Thought I would give an update as to how my QED adventures are going having spent a good few days in the NE and the GT of Victoria using a few different coils and also visiting the Coiltek test site at Maryborough. 

I am also posting this across 3 forums that I frequent with varying amounts of input.  Prospecting Australia, Detector Prospector and Australian Electronic Gold Prospecting Forum.  Apart from my recent findings there have also been a few questions and comments across a few of the forums about various QEDisms and hopefully this may answer some of those queries for the people that posed them and others who may be looking at a QED with interest.   

There are some people that like to fire shots across the bow of others on the forums I mentioned above.  I’m not interested in that and please don’t start that in response to this post.  People across all of these forums have been most helpful to me and I am posting this to try and be helpful to others, not to start arguments. 

Have I found gold yet?  YES!!!!  One tiny, teensy little piece not far from home.  That was with the 11” Detech Ultra Sensing coil. 

The 5 days recently spent in the GT were hard yakka and I didn’t find any gold.  But neither did Mitchel (from DP with his GPZ) and Elusive (DP and PA with his SD2200).  Elusive did take home some consolation prizes with his SDC of 2 species and another small piece of gold.  Apart from 1 spot we mostly covered flogged ground. 

With the recent rain I was apprehensive about how the QED was going to handle the mineralisation.  My personal feeling is that wet mineralised ground ‘lights up’ the mineralisation and makes ground noise issues greater.  For example, my GPZ hated wet, red clay but would play nicely in the same ground when dry.  The QED is not much different I find.  A depression in the clay that has allowed water to sit and moisten the clay, surrounded by hard packed, dry clay would give the QED issues.  The mineralisation and also the variability between the density of the ground creates problems in my opinion (for the QED and the GPZ).

The important thing though is how did the QED (and the operator) deal with with these problems.  Well, this time around I dealt with it a lot better.  Isn’t it funny how the more you use a detector and get used to it the easier it seems to be  :-)  Most of the ground noise that showed up gave a wide response and also a variable response - meaning that it wouldn’t always be in the exact same spot like a genuine target should be.
Using the GB change of 4 points up or 4 points down also confirmed things for me.  4 down would often soften the response greatly and 4 up would sharpen the response greatly.  I have been very scared using this method as I really do not wish to walk away from a genuine target and due to this I dug (or at least scratched a few inches off) every target I got.  Not a single time in 5 days did this technique fail and I end up popping a genuine target out of the hole. 

I tried to remember to do this on targets that I was sure were targets before digging them and the response might change the very slightest amount but essentially they sounded the same.  I didn’t always remember to do this though as I was excited to dig what seemed a genuine article. 

Lead shot/BBs/.22 bullets/lead fragments - if digging these is a sign that a detector is working then the QED was purring because these little **&%$$##%&* absolutely pop.  There is no mistaking that they are a target. 

Ground Balance - the settings I used on the 11” and the ground (especially around Bendigo) meant that a spot on GB only had a variation of 1-2 points.  So, the unit may be ground balanced at 110 but just out at 111 or 109.  Getting a GB is now quicker with more use and recognising when it is out of GB is also becoming more innate.  It is now at a point where a quick, on the fly re-GB is not an inconvenience. 

THS-A, THS-B   -   Have now found happy settings for these with the 11” and sticking with them until such a time that I need to change.
Gain - still having issues getting a stable threshold with a setting of 2 or above and I forgot to discuss this with Reg when I was with him.   I have occasionally punched the Gain up to 3 or 4 to find a really, really, tiny target as it brightens the signal but it also ratties up the threshold so it can’t be kept there. 

Mode - Adjusted this better over my GT trip in response to the ground conditions and it allowed improved handling of various ground conditions.  Again, learning the features of the unit and when to utilise them (and remembering to utilise them!) has helped a lot. 

Goldman’s QED Tips thread on the AEGPF has been quite useful in getting an understanding of the finer points of using the QED - so thanks to Goldman.

There was a comment on DP forum that related to Jonathon Porter’s review of the QED back in 2017.  It was something like the QED is ‘best suited to small targets in less mineralised ground’ and the question posed was if this is the case then why not just use a VLF?  This was in 2017 and there have been several more modes added to the QED since then.  The belief is that this has given the QED a greater range of ground conditions that it can effectively work and my opinion would be that the QED is quite well suited to a variety of gold sizes in a variety of grounds. 
This is in no way a slight on JP’s review as I believe he simply ‘called it as he saw it’ at the time.  The advances in the number of Modes available may lead JP to a different view now. 

I would like to back up my statement of “the QED is quite well suited to a variety of gold sizes in a variety of grounds” by showing some wonderfully large and small nuggets but unfortunately I can’t.  All  can say is that I have dug some quite deep .22 bullets and other rubbish and a visit to the Coiltek test site proved quite interesting. 

I gave the 20” NF Advantage Spoked coil (bundle wound) and the 11” Detech Ultra Sensing coil (spiral wound) a run here. 

The 20” picked up the smallest target of 3 grams, the 2 ouncer and the 5 ouncer without any worries.   I think the other 2 targets are 7 grams and 15 grams and it got the slightest hit on one of them but not enough to stop me out in the field and no hit on the other at all.

The 11” really surprised me.   It got a hit on the 3 grams, 15 grams, 2 ouncer and 15 ouncer.  It missed the 7 gram though which was interesting.  However, the Coiltek fella that was there said many detectors had trouble with that particular target. 

Mitchel’s GPZ got all targets except the 5 ouncer.  We did try a few different settings but couldn’t get a peep on it.  I have seen other’s on PA say they have got all targets there with their GPZ’s and I can’t help but think there was something in Mitchel’s settings that was limiting it.  As a previous GPZ owner (who loved it!) I have seen it pull some ridiculously deep stuff and find it odd that it couldn’t pick that piece up. 

The Coiltek fella had an SDC and it couldn’t get anything which only surprised me on the first target - I thought it might/should have got it. 

A few things to point out. 

I keep comparing the QED to my GPZ and although that is not a fair comparison I have not used anything else that does compare. 

I respect Howard for the progress he is making with the QED and the fact that it is an Australian product makes me a proud purchaser.  However, please don’t feel I am making comments on the QED as a means of persuading anyone to make a purchase.  Having layman’s reviews of any product may help those in the market decide if a particular item is going to work for them.   I probably align myself with a comment from Ararat Gold recently that he is not brand loyal.   I will buy what works for me at the price point I can afford regardless of brand.  (If that product happens to be Australian then all the better ;-) 


Previously I have felt that I am reasonably happy with my QED purchase.  The 5 days in the GT has increased that feeling of content and I am quite confident in approaching different areas/tasks with the QED in hand and getting the job done.  The variety of coils available is a new joy and headache for me and the new ‘X coils’ might be a really interesting development for the QED. 

As always though, it doesn’t matter what you swing you have to get your coil over some yellow first.
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Wow, what can I say? What I can say is from the moment I met Adam I was most impressed in what a very astute young man he really is. Not only is he intelligent but he has the ability to sort the BS from the hype and work out what has the best chances of working for him.
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« Reply #17 on: Friday May 31 2019 09:56:00 AEST AM »

  
Evening all.

Thought I would give an update as to how my QED adventures are going having spent a good few days in the NE and the GT of Victoria using a few different coils and also visiting the Coiltek test site at Maryborough.  

I am also posting this across 3 forums that I frequent with varying amounts of input.  Prospecting Australia, Detector Prospector and Australian Electronic Gold Prospecting Forum.  Apart from my recent findings there have also been a few questions and comments across a few of the forums about various QEDisms and hopefully this may answer some of those queries for the people that posed them and others who may be looking at a QED with interest.  

There are some people that like to fire shots across the bow of others on the forums I mentioned above.  I’m not interested in that and please don’t start that in response to this post.  People across all of these forums have been most helpful to me and I am posting this to try and be helpful to others, not to start arguments.  

Have I found gold yet?  YES!!!!  One tiny, teensy little piece not far from home.  That was with the 11” Detech Ultra Sensing coil.  

The 5 days recently spent in the GT were hard yakka and I didn’t find any gold.  But neither did Mitchel (from DP with his GPZ) and Elusive (DP and PA with his SD2200).  Elusive did take home some consolation prizes with his SDC of 2 species and another small piece of gold.  Apart from 1 spot we mostly covered flogged ground.  

With the recent rain I was apprehensive about how the QED was going to handle the mineralisation.  My personal feeling is that wet mineralised ground ‘lights up’ the mineralisation and makes ground noise issues greater.  For example, my GPZ hated wet, red clay but would play nicely in the same ground when dry.  The QED is not much different I find.  A depression in the clay that has allowed water to sit and moisten the clay, surrounded by hard packed, dry clay would give the QED issues.  The mineralisation and also the variability between the density of the ground creates problems in my opinion (for the QED and the GPZ).

The important thing though is how did the QED (and the operator) deal with with these problems.  Well, this time around I dealt with it a lot better.  Isn’t it funny how the more you use a detector and get used to it the easier it seems to be  :-)  Most of the ground noise that showed up gave a wide response and also a variable response - meaning that it wouldn’t always be in the exact same spot like a genuine target should be.
Using the GB change of 4 points up or 4 points down also confirmed things for me.  4 down would often soften the response greatly and 4 up would sharpen the response greatly.  I have been very scared using this method as I really do not wish to walk away from a genuine target and due to this I dug (or at least scratched a few inches off) every target I got.  Not a single time in 5 days did this technique fail and I end up popping a genuine target out of the hole.  

I tried to remember to do this on targets that I was sure were targets before digging them and the response might change the very slightest amount but essentially they sounded the same.  I didn’t always remember to do this though as I was excited to dig what seemed a genuine article.  

Lead shot/BBs/.22 bullets/lead fragments - if digging these is a sign that a detector is working then the QED was purring because these little **&%$$##%&* absolutely pop.  There is no mistaking that they are a target.  

Ground Balance - the settings I used on the 11” and the ground (especially around Bendigo) meant that a spot on GB only had a variation of 1-2 points.  So, the unit may be ground balanced at 110 but just out at 111 or 109.  Getting a GB is now quicker with more use and recognising when it is out of GB is also becoming more innate.  It is now at a point where a quick, on the fly re-GB is not an inconvenience.  

THS-A, THS-B   -   Have now found happy settings for these with the 11” and sticking with them until such a time that I need to change.
Gain - still having issues getting a stable threshold with a setting of 2 or above and I forgot to discuss this with Reg when I was with him.   I have occasionally punched the Gain up to 3 or 4 to find a really, really, tiny target as it brightens the signal but it also ratties up the threshold so it can’t be kept there.  

Mode - Adjusted this better over my GT trip in response to the ground conditions and it allowed improved handling of various ground conditions.  Again, learning the features of the unit and when to utilise them (and remembering to utilise them!) has helped a lot.  

Goldman’s QED Tips thread on the AEGPF has been quite useful in getting an understanding of the finer points of using the QED - so thanks to Goldman.

There was a comment on DP forum that related to Jonathon Porter’s review of the QED back in 2017.  It was something like the QED is ‘best suited to small targets in less mineralised ground’ and the question posed was if this is the case then why not just use a VLF?  This was in 2017 and there have been several more modes added to the QED since then.  The belief is that this has given the QED a greater range of ground conditions that it can effectively work and my opinion would be that the QED is quite well suited to a variety of gold sizes in a variety of grounds.  
This is in no way a slight on JP’s review as I believe he simply ‘called it as he saw it’ at the time.  The advances in the number of Modes available may lead JP to a different view now.  

I would like to back up my statement of “the QED is quite well suited to a variety of gold sizes in a variety of grounds” by showing some wonderfully large and small nuggets but unfortunately I can’t.  All  can say is that I have dug some quite deep .22 bullets and other rubbish and a visit to the Coiltek test site proved quite interesting.  

I gave the 20” NF Advantage Spoked coil (bundle wound) and the 11” Detech Ultra Sensing coil (spiral wound) a run here.  

The 20” picked up the smallest target of 3 grams, the 2 ouncer and the 5 ouncer without any worries.   I think the other 2 targets are 7 grams and 15 grams and it got the slightest hit on one of them but not enough to stop me out in the field and no hit on the other at all.

The 11” really surprised me.   It got a hit on the 3 grams, 15 grams, 2 ouncer and 15 ouncer.  It missed the 7 gram though which was interesting.  However, the Coiltek fella that was there said many detectors had trouble with that particular target.  

Mitchel’s GPZ got all targets except the 5 ouncer.  We did try a few different settings but couldn’t get a peep on it.  I have seen other’s on PA say they have got all targets there with their GPZ’s and I can’t help but think there was something in Mitchel’s settings that was limiting it.  As a previous GPZ owner (who loved it!) I have seen it pull some ridiculously deep stuff and find it odd that it couldn’t pick that piece up.  

The Coiltek fella had an SDC and it couldn’t get anything which only surprised me on the first target - I thought it might/should have got it.  

A few things to point out.  

I keep comparing the QED to my GPZ and although that is not a fair comparison I have not used anything else that does compare.  

I respect Howard for the progress he is making with the QED and the fact that it is an Australian product makes me a proud purchaser.  However, please don’t feel I am making comments on the QED as a means of persuading anyone to make a purchase.  Having layman’s reviews of any product may help those in the market decide if a particular item is going to work for them.   I probably align myself with a comment from Ararat Gold recently that he is not brand loyal.   I will buy what works for me at the price point I can afford regardless of brand.  (If that product happens to be Australian then all the better ;-)  


Previously I have felt that I am reasonably happy with my QED purchase.  The 5 days in the GT has increased that feeling of content and I am quite confident in approaching different areas/tasks with the QED in hand and getting the job done.  The variety of coils available is a new joy and headache for me and the new ‘X coils’ might be a really interesting development for the QED.  

As always though, it doesn’t matter what you swing you have to get your coil over some yellow first.

Thank you for your very detailed review! happy face
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« Reply #18 on: Friday May 31 2019 10:35:30 AEST AM »

Great review Northeast, thank you

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« Reply #19 on: Friday May 31 2019 12:23:30 AEST PM »

  
Great review Northeast, thank you

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