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QED is here! ML have NOT stopped the QED!
Goldsearch Australia has been appointed the Australian Distributor for the QED. QED info on the Goldsearch website has been updated.
This is the only forum where you can talk directly with the designer/ manufacturer of the QED!
Jrbeatty and Reg Wilson  and  Yellowfin have NO vested  or pecuniary interests in the QED other than using it to find gold which it is doing very successfully!

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 91 
 on: Wednesday February 15 2017 20:03:28 AEDT PM 
Started by Huego - Last post by WM6
"Hell Is: Other People." Jean Paul Sartre

"Show me a sane man and I will cure him for you" - Carl Jung

"No Self (uncured Ego), no Problem" — Buddhism

"Real freedom is freedom from our own conceptions, from the psychological veil that is
distorting the way things are. When we are free from our own unenlightened mind, that internal
veil, we see that most of our problems are imaginary. Everything is a manifestation of great
emptiness. That means that everything is divine. When we are able to surrender to reality we
experience a great awakening. The act of surrendering to reality is enlightenment"

 92 
 on: Wednesday February 15 2017 19:06:11 AEDT PM 
Started by Huego - Last post by Huego
Sadly, I see little or no posts about the QED on 4-umer when its running hot here & on Finders and will shortly be elsewhere. Even 1.5s silly forum-of-abuse-&-lies is almost all directed at the QED, tests & QED people.

Where is 4-umer now? Knock Knock... new detector guys! People want to talk about it. Even as a ML-focussed forum, its members show little interest there... wishing & hoping that the QED posts re-appear where they should? (on the discussion page) & by those who know something (Reg & co)?

Seems they have made a big mistake burning their bridges with many members because of their links to ML supporters, dealers & connections. Where is their appeal for mutual respect with members now? Kon?

Huego

Late Extra:

Allusions to Washington:  First, “they" brought us fake news; and then, alternative facts about the QED.  Now, compliments of the ….. administration, we bring you "instinctive correctness”.

If you cant have it (eg a QED) watch others who use it and post about it.

 93 
 on: Wednesday February 15 2017 18:56:29 AEDT PM 
Started by Doug - Last post by Huego
  

Old mate why are you telling more lies on Finders?
doug



Ask Billy  excited

 94 
 on: Wednesday February 15 2017 18:56:24 AEDT PM 
Started by bugwhiskers - Last post by WM6
  
  
Thanks Huego. For those metric thinking: 1oz is about 30grams (29.6)


1 troy oz         = 31.1034 grams
1 oz standard  = 28.35 grams

A possible source of confusion is that gold is often priced on the open market in the more traditional troy ounce (one troy ounce is exactly 31.1034768 grams, which is larger than the avoirdupois ounce generally in use in the United States and has a mass of 28.35 grams).

Thanks for corrections, geof_junk.

Those "OZ" really make some mess in metric world. I got in "oz to gram" online converter about 29.6grams.

 95 
 on: Wednesday February 15 2017 18:17:39 AEDT PM 
Started by bugwhiskers - Last post by geof_junk
  
Thanks Huego. For those metric thinking: 1oz is about 30grams (29.6)


1 troy oz         = 31.1034 grams
1 oz standard  = 28.35 grams

A possible source of confusion is that gold is often priced on the open market in the more traditional troy ounce (one troy ounce is exactly 31.1034768 grams, which is larger than the avoirdupois ounce generally in use in the United States and has a mass of 28.35 grams).

 96 
 on: Wednesday February 15 2017 16:15:08 AEDT PM 
Started by bugwhiskers - Last post by Huego
  

....the test results are more down to who is doing the test ...
.... I have never been impressed with PI's in normal ground,  side by side in such soils a VLF will match them in normal ground but in hot ground a VLF just looses too much depth otherwise the results would be on par,


Yes Reg did this testing, but he was formerly a ML tester is a Z owner & is independent of us.
Would it have been more beliveable if JP did these tests? Hmmm..

The threads about the QED here have NOTHING to do with any VLF.  (Suggest you stay on subject as you have been asked on other occassions when posting here & elsewhere. (Few people look for gold with a VLF in VIC or even Aust. ... none I know. Perhaps you use your VLF and PIs on a beach not in main goldfields.)

Most gold in Vic is in hot ground and PI are de rigueur. Not much gold in "quiet ground" its usually in hot noisy ground iron rich ground where PI's excel.  Most decent PI's are expensive though because of a "gold tax" but the QED is different & those who have reported on Finders (at least 4) have sung its praises,




 97 
 on: Wednesday February 15 2017 15:21:10 AEDT PM 
Started by 6666 - Last post by 6666
Thanks will check it out.

 98 
 on: Wednesday February 15 2017 15:18:45 AEDT PM 
Started by bugwhiskers - Last post by Ridge Runner
  
  

It's great how PI's work, the fact they can in most cases ignore the ground and still find an item is all we want from any machine.


Whats REALLY GOOD for prospectors is that such a high performance, very competitive PI is now available, after such a long wait, & at such a competitive price.

BW HAS made "a machine that can truly make a difference" to prospecting in Australia, through its affordabilty & ease of use.  

PS:  I see BASE PRICE is now $1370

Speaking of Grd Balance: I see that “The QED (wearing the same coils as the 5000) seems to outperform the 5000 in most if not all cases. The ability of the QED to GB in places where the 5000 can't, is staggering...."  

WTF ... how can it do that for so little????


Well the test results are more down to who is doing the test, Some folks get impressive depth with their PI's Personally I never saw huge depths with my PI machines, so I would relate such depth down to how well a person knows their machine. Sovereign GT achieved the best depth in normal ground on a small Item but I have never been impressed with PI's in normal ground,  side by side in such soils a VLF will match them in normal ground but in hot ground a VLF just looses too much depth otherwise the results would be on par,

 99 
 on: Wednesday February 15 2017 15:00:33 AEDT PM 
Started by bugwhiskers - Last post by Huego
  

It's great how PI's work, the fact they can in most cases ignore the ground and still find an item is all we want from any machine.


Whats REALLY GOOD for prospectors is that such a high performance, very competitive PI is now available, after such a long wait, & at such a competitive price.

BW HAS made "a machine that can truly make a difference" (RR) to prospecting in Australia, through its affordabilty & ease of use.  

PS:  I see BASE PRICE is now $1370

Speaking of Grd Balance: I see that “The QED (wearing the same coils as the 5000) seems to outperform the 5000 in most if not all cases. The ability of the QED to GB in places where the 5000 can't, is staggering...."  

WTF ... how can it do that for so little????

 100 
 on: Wednesday February 15 2017 14:42:10 AEDT PM 
Started by bugwhiskers - Last post by Ridge Runner
  
  

Considering the power PI's have Actual In Ground depth when you compare them to a VLF, A PI air tests badly yet they go deep in the ground yet a VLF air tests like the devil but don't go as deep, Eric Foster has made a lot of people rich over the years.


Its what people wanted to see ... large GOLD TARGETS .... and it compares apples with apples (ie PI against PI), not oranges (VLF).  It is COMPARATIVE only, under controlled conditions with most variables noted or controlled,

No comparison against these targets, as if they are in-ground results, is suggested or inferred by Reg or anyone else. In fact he says....such "bench tests are perhaps not the most definitive measure of a detectors ability"




It's great how PI's work, the fact they can in most cases ignore the ground and still find an item is all we want from any machine.

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