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« on: Saturday January 1 2011 10:24:50 AEDT AM »

 OK member here is your opportunity to give your thoughts and ideas as to how the forum might be improved.
Over to you!
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« Reply #1 on: Saturday January 1 2011 10:29:57 AEDT AM »

  
OK member here is your opportunity to give your thoughts and ideas as to how the forum might be improved.
Over to you!
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Ok here is one alternative. Close this forum down and go back to the old one?
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday January 1 2011 16:07:34 AEDT PM »

  

Ok here is one alternative. Close this forum down and go back to the old one?
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My view is that would be the BIGGEST backward step you could take Doug. No advantages whatever.
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« Reply #3 on: Saturday January 1 2011 17:59:35 AEDT PM »

Doug,

I believe this forum has heaps of good, varied & unique posts about prospecting, especially for those interesting in the more technical side of the hobby, not just the act of searching / finding gold. These are largely attributable to your personal efforts Doug, and that is a credit to you. It may be lacking in members & personal adventure stories but they abound elsewhere.

Speaking for myself, I enjoy talking about (ie exchangng ideas) on technical, political, ethical & the business side of this hobby and that is why I get involved in these more contentious issues. I know this is of interest to only a minority. My posts are for such a minority. HOWEVER, I fully support and have actively encouraged others to post on whatever subject interests them otherwise the whole forum can become distorted.

Have we "lost our way" as some have said? I think not, although the forum has drifted to a reactionary role to outside attacks rather than a self-sufficient and self sustainable one. I have been implicated in this drift so I will try and correct that to allowing attacks on me to be seen as "water off a ducks back". Like Doug & Bugs at times, I will find it hard with constant provocations from outside.

As Gary said, what we say here will never change the attitude of those knockers &  denigrators but only feed their addiction, not matter how right or justified we are. How true Gary! That's the reason to not try n change or correct them.

"Should any currently banned members be allowed to join the forum? If so who?" (Doug) My view is a no!  Banned members should remain branded & banned until the QED is released at least, few if any have changed and are beyond redemption. Keep the anti-forum morons out!

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« Reply #4 on: Saturday January 1 2011 18:17:26 AEDT PM »

  
  
OK member here is your opportunity to give your thoughts and ideas as to how the forum might be improved.
Over to you!
doug happy face

Ok here is one alternative. Close this forum down and go back to the old one?
doug happy face

  you have to be f#@##ing kidding right ::38::

who'd wanna go back to the administration mess that forum ended up (no fault of your's doug) as good as the culture there was?

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday January 1 2011 23:39:07 AEDT PM »

Just ignore the dopes on the other forums & lets talk about the best ways to get GOLD !   ::38::

Regards
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« Reply #6 on: Sunday January 2 2011 00:06:18 AEDT AM »

Doug,

Like most who post comments on this forum addressed to you by name, I treat them as if they are adressed to you as the forum moderator or chairman / controller of this forum, ie as if they are to or for forum members attention / comment. (Like in parliament, members address the chair / controller of a discussion.)

So, on personal matters addressed to you or others, I DON"T SPEAK FOR OTHERS, for YOU or for BUGS or the QED on any matter. I express only my own views on anyt matter. Thisclarification is my corrections of a lie (a deliberate misperception by another).

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday January 2 2011 03:10:50 AEDT AM »

Hi Doug you have lost me on this one, why in the hell would you even raise this question?

The old forum was great but lets not forget all the problems we had there towards the end.

This forum is fantastic and we keep most of the rarbags at arms length.

If it's members your chasing open it up to everyone, but I don"t think that would be a very wise move as it would just generate into another flounders forum.

I personally like it the way it is, and it will grow and become an invaluable vault of knowledge for those that genuinely seek it.

I could keep rattling on but best leave it there.

My thoughts only.

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« Reply #8 on: Friday January 7 2011 23:38:14 AEDT PM »

Maybe a Personal adventure Stories category, if there is not one already? I took this from the reply Huego made. For myself I am into the finding and searching for gold. This involves detecting and detectors as these are now the added tools of the modern day prospector.
Your site here doe's give a lot of info on all the above. If it is not being talked about, a person can still retrieve information because of the many links provided once they learn to drive around here.
The bad blood and Egoe's on a couple of other sites is just too much to take at times.
I like the idea that people are restricted to how nasty or over the top they are allowed to go here. respect Unlike Huego and some others I am not into the technical, political side of things and that is only because I don't understand a lot about it. I could probably learn a bit of each while I am here. I can only tell you I am at this forum because some of the others are a repeat everyday, of putting some other fellow down or drawing them into a public argument for no good purpose. That's the modern world I guess but it doesn't mean it must be accepted.
Whatever you do of course is your call but best of luck with it.

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« Reply #9 on: Saturday January 8 2011 21:26:42 AEDT PM »

Doug,

I see Tuffs suggestion of "personal adventure stories" as a good idea for those prospecting posters. I certainly won't get in their way NO matter what tool they use! Most here still use ML myself included. (I hope that will change soon) BUT, it still requires posters to post such adventures. Righteous just did one.  respect

(Just because I enjoy exploring / exposing lies, deception, costs, politics etc behind detectors, forums & some companies, this is certainly not of great appeal to most members. I do it for a minority of keen supporters, not to be popular with a majority. MY support is in defence of the QED, which was a primary target of mockery by those outside this forum & GPOZ for so long.  Such verbal abuse, from outside this forum, continues focussing on selected,  members here. Every forum has its own culture & interests. This one leans more towards technology which suits me fine. Explaining my role for those newer members. Do not use it out of context! )

Looking at the variety and number of posts in the past 2 days Doug, and if one compares this forum with others (eg some with over 10x the membership number), this forum exceeds them in quality, number & diversity of posts. Its no sinking ship or train crash but innovation moving ahead at full steam!

Cheers, Huego  happy face

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« Reply #10 on: Saturday January 8 2011 22:00:52 AEDT PM »

  
Doug,

I see Tuffs suggestion of "personal adventure stories" as a good idea for those prospecting posters. I certainly won't get in their way NO matter what tool they use! Most here still use ML myself included. (I hope that will change soon) BUT, it still requires posters to post such adventures. Righteous just did one.  respect

(Just because I enjoy exploring / exposing lies, deception, costs, politics etc behind detectors, forums & some companies, this is certainly not of great appeal to most members. I do it for a minority of keen supporters not to be popular with a majority. Also I do as in support & defence of the QED which was a primary target of mockery for so long, but now such abuse has turned to some members here. Every forum has its own culture & interests. This one leans more towards technology which suits me fine. Explaining my role for those newer members)

Looking at the variety and number of posts in past 2 days ,and if one compares this forum with others (eg some with over 10x the membership number) this forum exceeds them in quality, number & diversity of posts. Its no sinking ship but a battle cruiser moving at full steam!

Cheers, Huego  happy face

For a very small and  a young forum I think we are going ok! Our page views and post rate/member leaves most of the bigger "forums" for dead!
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« Reply #11 on: Sunday January 9 2011 05:10:48 AEDT AM »


 Stuffy
  Great post,I agree 100 percent,and you
couldn't have said it better. respect
 Doug does post some very interesting and
useful information,for prospecting. I spend
more time reading these links,than the nit
picking,and bickering ones.

 I am sure that there is several of us,that
have real prospecting,stories that are more
entertaining,and useful,than fighting with the
neighbors. Clown

 Believe it or not,there is lots of prospectors
that don't need a detector to find gold. I do
support anyone that is trying to improve on
the current detectors,or any other prospecting
equipment.
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« Reply #12 on: Sunday January 9 2011 05:21:15 AEDT AM »

  
. Also I do as in support & defence of the QED which was a primary target of mockery for so long, but now such abuse has turned to some members here.

Cheers, Huego  happy face

  Ya hit the nail on the head Huego!! respect

  I think you would admit that you and othewrs had to much hype on how over a year ago the QED was going to be better than Minelab.  All the waiting for the next reason was getting a bit like Dave with the Nemesis.  Don't ya think it would of been better to say were trying, than saying next month it will be here in all its glory?
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday January 9 2011 08:57:20 AEDT AM »

  

 Stuffy
  Great post,I agree 100 percent,and you
couldn't have said it better. respect
 Doug does post some very interesting and
useful information,for prospecting. I spend
more time reading these links,than the nit
picking,and bickering ones.

 I am sure that there is several of us,that
have real prospecting,stories that are more
entertaining,and useful,than fighting with the
neighbors. Clown

 Believe it or not,there is lots of prospectors
that don't need a detector to find gold. I do
support anyone that is trying to improve on
the current detectors,or any other prospecting
equipment.

Thanks for your thoughts on this matter!What a pity we have to put up with the inane comments of some like Arizona who can  never answer any questions put to  him and contributes nothing but dross to the forum!
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« Reply #14 on: Sunday January 9 2011 10:11:42 AEDT AM »

  

 ......... I think you would admit that you and othewrs had to much hype on how over a year ago theQED was going to be better than Minelab.

All the waiting for the next reason was getting a bit like Dave with the Nemesis.  Don't ya think it would of been better to say were trying, than saying next month it will be here in all its glory?


My guess Sawmill is talking about the "nitpicking & bickering" between Arizona, Inhere & NVChris and some here. While they are allowed to post their crap here I will post my own corrections to their BS in defence of the QED & its supporters here. I prefer to do that than post stories about prospecting. Others can do that and they are welcome to do so. I am more interested in other matters.  ::38::

I still think the QED will meet my high expectations, but for good reasons I agreed not talk about it now, unlike a year ago (mostly me responding with facts to the fanatics, skeptics & critics).  happy face

All comments on the QED were consistent, & based on facts known (released) at the time, or that were anticipated with good reason. I made no claims, I expressed hopes & made predictions (you call "hype", in it's defence).  I am an ACTIVE (not passive) member & supporter! (That's why you try and attack me here.)

Timescales & delays mean little to me as current delays are all understandable (to me) and don't have to be explained to others or denigrators like you. I was not promoting the QED (with hype, I was defending it from attacks by the ignorant. No, it was unnecessary for me to say "we are trying" - that was obvious, it was more necessary to expose & confront the liars, denigrators & abusers head on, here and on 2 US ML forums. I did that!

Arizona, you have been dealt with very leniently on this forum by me and others. Moreso than some I know were on US ML forums where pack attacks were the norm! Why is that?  You are lucky to be here as you give so little and what does come out of you is mostly BS or ill-considered & unsubstantiated exaggeration.

Why don't you post stories of your prospecting adventures, about technology or about gold and improve your image?

Huego

Sawmill, "fighting with neighbours" is a sad but necessary consequence when attacked. Its done with words , ideas & is done here, on an independant forums. It's not done to fill pages or stats but (from my own perspective) to defend, correct or explain or counter the BS & misinformation that is thrown this way (throwing of stink bombs over the walls, as some denigartors have admitted).


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« Reply #15 on: Sunday January 9 2011 11:35:16 AEDT AM »


 Eugene
  I can talk for myself! I mean all the
bickering and BS period.
 Sometimes attacks are provoked too. rolleye 1
The fire will never die as long as there
is someone to feed it.

 Who cares what the neighbors think?
They are not going to change,so why
waste time playing their games?
When a QED is produced that does
what it is supposed to do,it will make them
all suck wind. The QED is looking more like
a contender every day,and that is more
important than what some clown says on
another forum.

 If the QED works as planned,it doesn't
need defending. Personally I am content
with letting the inventors work on their
projects. New detectors or improvements
are more important to me,than what some
YoYo on another forum thinks.
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« Reply #16 on: Sunday January 9 2011 11:41:35 AEDT AM »

  

 Eugene
  I can talk for myself! I mean all the
bickering and BS period.
 Sometimes attacks are provoked too. rolleye 1
The fire will never die as long as there
is someone to feed it.

 Who cares what the neighbors think?
They are not going to change,so why
waste time playing their games?
When a QED is produced that does
what it is supposed to do,it will make them
all suck wind. The QED is looking more like
a contender every day,and that is more
important than what some clown says on
another forum.

 If the QED works as planned,it doesn't
need defending. Personally I am content
with letting the inventors work on their
projects. New detectors or improvements
are more important to me,than what some
YoYo on another forum thinks.

I agree ,lets try not feed the fire and the trolls both here and elsewhere! I agree with you that these trolls won't or probably can't change!
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« Reply #17 on: Sunday January 9 2011 12:00:27 AEDT PM »

  

I agree ,lets try not feed the fire and the trolls both here and elsewhere! I agree with you that these trolls won't or probably can't change!
doug happy face

  Does this mean your obsession with your Minelab bashing also?  Thats great Doug, the forum will be a smooth runner finally! respect respect respect
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« Reply #18 on: Sunday January 9 2011 12:11:45 AEDT PM »

  
  

I agree ,lets try not feed the fire and the trolls both here and elsewhere! I agree with you that these trolls won't or probably can't change!
doug happy face

  Does this mean your obsession with your Minelab bashing also?  Thats great Doug, the forum will be a smooth runner finally! respect respect respect

Just exposing the truth and providing background info so that folks may make up their own minds!
Perhaps exploding the ML myths and  spin?
 The public has a right to know the real facts which they won't get  on other  I eyed pro ML anti anything  else forums or forums endorsed or sponsored by ML!!!
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« Reply #19 on: Sunday January 9 2011 12:13:38 AEDT PM »

Sawmill, You are largely right (as you see it) but I have programmed myself to react defensively and offensively to counter their lies & provocations over the past year, doing what I can to correct their BS propaganda. However. I know it does not change them, what they think or what they say.

So my comments are not really for them but for those who follow the evolution of competition, in the metal detecting field and how it is opposed, on this forum. It’s too tempting sometimes to provoke (by exposing) them, or counter their usually poor reasoning when I am attacked personally. My actions are always primarily directed at supporting the truth, consumer rights, new competition, especially the QED, while having fun with words and ideas doing it!

However, such exchanges are so steeped in the psyche of both attackers & defenders that it will go on until (in my case) the QED is released, if even to a small group. Thereafter what I have said will be vindicated & there will be NO NEED to exchange views or correct the neighbours. What’s more important to me is to support the demonstration of what is possible, rather than what I can do with a QED.

Meanwhile, I will continue to post as I wish on a wide range of subjects that appeal to me in my way and have some fun doing it. As you can see, principles are more important than nuggets & prospecting to me.

Huego

Arizona, what precisely is ML bashing? Does it mean we can't or should not expose what ML does, did or specualte about the how & why? How boring it would be if we could not explore these strange business manners!
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